Farve vs. Packers

King James · 11-01-2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RevSmoke

The Packers lost - Bret didn't beat them. You can blame part of that on coaching and play-calling. If you watched the game, you know what I mean.

Although the Packers did miss some opportunities, I think one could argue that Brett beat them (or at least was the main reason for beating the Pack) I mean he did throw 4 TDs and didn't turn the ball over at all (I don't blame him for the botched snap)

RevSmoke · 11-02-2009, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by King James

Although the Packers did miss some opportunities, I think one could argue that Brett beat them (or at least was the main reason for beating the Pack) I mean he did throw 4 TDs and didn't turn the ball over at all (I don't blame him for the botched snap)

DId Brett beat them? Packer d-line never pressured him all night. There was shoddy coverage on his receivers.

DId Brett play well? Yes, no doubt about it. But the Packer defense did not perform. Had they sacked him once or twice and this would have been a different game. Had the coverage been better, this was a different game.

If the Packer offense played as well in the first half as they did in the second half, this would have been a different game.

My point? While one man can make a difference in a football game, it is still a team effort. Put Brett in Packer jersey last night and the outcome would have been the same - A Viking victory. At the same time, put Rodgers in a Viking jersey - it it would have maybe been even worse for the Pack. With Brett as a Packer last night, he'd have been a hurting pup.

King James · 11-02-2009, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RevSmoke

DId Brett beat them? Packer d-line never pressured him all night. There was shoddy coverage on his receivers.

DId Brett play well? Yes, no doubt about it. But the Packer defense did not perform. Had they sacked him once or twice and this would have been a different game. Had the coverage been better, this was a different game.

If the Packer offense played as well in the first half as they did in the second half, this would have been a different game.

My point? While one man can make a difference in a football game, it is still a team effort. Put Brett in Packer jersey last night and the outcome would have been the same - A Viking victory. At the same time, put Rodgers in a Viking jersey - it it would have maybe been even worse for the Pack. With Brett as a Packer last night, he'd have been a hurting pup.

Im afraid we will have to agree to disagree.

Brett has an excellent sense of pocket pressure, and even at 40 yrs old has a good ability to move around in the pocket. If Rodgers was the QB for the Vikings, he would have been sacked probably 2-3 times last night when Favre was not.

On the other hand, although the Packers o-line is not the greatest this year.... of all the sacks last night at least 3 were Rodgers fault for not getting rid of the ball. Of the 14 sacks given up to the Vikings, I would say 8 at least are Rodgers own fault... he needs to learn how to get rid of the ball and/or step up in the pocket.

And as far as winning the game, both games this year the packers have contained adrian peterson very well. Last year, if that would have happened the vikings wouldn't have a had a chance. This year w/ Brett @ QB, they can win games when adrian peterson isn't having as good of a night. Yes it is a team effort, but I'm fairly comfortable in saying that the Vikings would not have beaten the Pack this year if Favre wasn't at QB.

And the coverage was actually pretty good last night. But Favre knows those guys and how they cover, and the man can just make throws and see things that other people can not.... slipping the ball in between 2 defenders and throwing when his feet are not set.

BlackDog · 11-02-2009, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by King James

On the other hand, although the Packers o-line is not the greatest this year.... of all the sacks last night at least 3 were Rodgers fault for not getting rid of the ball. Of the 14 sacks given up to the Vikings, I would say 8 at least are Rodgers own fault... he needs to learn how to get rid of the ball and/or step up in the pocket.

Agree. Rodgers needs to learn to get rid of the ball faster. He seems to be looking for the big play rather than tossing a screen pass for a few yards.