tobacco beetles!

[T.G]

Originally Posted by roughrider

Why don't cigar manufacturers do the freeze procedure at the factories on all their cigars?

Most (but not all) do.

Problem is, even if the manufacturer freezes everything before shipping (and lets assume it's an infallible process, which it's not, but lets just run with that for the moment), that only ensures that the cigars are beetle, larvae and egg free up until that point. All they have to do is be exposed to one mating pair of beetles at any point thereafter in their travels from the factory to the distributor to the vendor to the customer for them to be potentially re-infested.

Some vendors (JR cigars comes immediately to mind) blast freeze all incoming shipments too. But again, once it leaves their warehouse humidor, anything can happen.

[roughrider]

Originally Posted by T.G

Most (but not all) do.

Problem is, even if the manufacturer freezes everything before shipping (and lets assume it's an infallible process, which it's not, but lets just run with that for the moment), that only ensures that the cigars are beetle, larvae and egg free up until that point. All they have to do is be exposed to one mating pair of beetles at any point thereafter in their travels from the factory to the distributor to the vendor to the customer for them to be potentially re-infested.

Some vendors (JR cigars comes immediately to mind) blast freeze all incoming shipments too. But again, once it leaves their warehouse humidor, anything can happen.

Makes sense.

Originally Posted by T.G

Some vendors (JR cigars comes immediately to mind) blast freeze all incoming shipments too. But again, once it leaves their warehouse humidor, anything can happen.

I'll keep repeating this until the heavens: JR has not once, but twice passed on moldy cigars to me. Beetles I can live with. Sending me cigars with patches of mold is not forgivable.

[T.G]

Originally Posted by sodomanaz

I'll keep repeating this until the heavens: JR has not once, but twice passed on moldy cigars to me. Beetles I can live with. Sending me cigars with patches of mold is not forgivable.

Accidentally shipping mold seems happens to all vendors at one time or another. *shrug* Even some of the CC vendors who inspect boxes prior to shipment seem to occasionally screw up too (abet rarely).

I suspect that JR keeps their shipping warehouse at greater than 70RH. Everything I've ever bought from them has come in wet despite the fact it takes a week to get to CA. It's gotten to the point that whenever I get a box of cigars from them now, I just leave them out on the counter for a week or so to dry.