Don Jose "Pepin" Garcia

Originally Posted by TheRiddick

Now that I have had 2 5 Vegas Miamis, back to back, never had any before, I am pretty sure they are not MADE by Pepin, simply poor construction (too loose a draw on the first one and too tight a draw on second) for a Pepin controlled factory.

5 vegas Miami petite coronas are my go to short smoke. I smoke em till they burn my fingers. I' m looking at their box and it say Tabacalera Garcia right on it. I'm sure they are rolled by the least experienced rollers except for maybee the torpedo. The only Vitolas I've tried are the petite corona and torpedo and I love them.
For the 601's I love the red and blue. The black is a very strange smoke and the greens are on my to try list.

[TheRiddick]

Originally Posted by Steelergar

I' m looking at their box and it say Tabacalera Garcia right on it.

http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar...47,147,00.html

Tabacalera Garcia has nothing to do with Pepin. I just wish CI didn't play it fast and loose with consumers' minds and money.

I just had another Miami Knuckle tonight, so far 3 different experiences with 3 cigars: construction lacks one way or another, the burn is uneven on all 3, the taste varies wildly as well from a mild to medium and nutty in flavor to full bodied and spicy. There is no way Pepin had anything to do with these save for the original blend and actually, looking at how the blend tastes so different in 3 cigars from same 6 pack, I doubt they use consistently same blend components Pepin originally settled on, the first cigar looked and smoked like a Honduran tobacco in every way.

Anyway, smoke them if you like them, just let's stop referring to these as Pepin made products, they simply cannot be based on construction and blend inconsistency.

Originally Posted by TheRiddick

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Tabacalera Garcia has nothing to do with Pepin. I just wish CI didn't play it fast and loose with consumers' minds and money.

Anyway, smoke them if you like them, just let's stop referring to these as Pepin made products, they simply cannot be based on construction and blend inconsistency.

Trust me they are made by Pepin. The factory in that article is Tabalerade de Garcia owned by Atladis based out of Dominican Republic. Pepin owns 3 factories now, El Rey de La Habanos, Tacuba with Fernandez and Tabacalera Garcia which was created for their My Father brand that uses their own tobacco. Tabalerade de Garcia had a law suite against Pepin because their names are similar. In June of 2009 Pepin decided to change the name of his factory to My Father Cigars. The box I have says made in Nicaragua, is constructed the same as a DPG black box from 2006 and has the same usage of # codes on the bottom. Try a different vitola.