Patrick Kane Arrested

[Genetic Defect]

Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes

I don't leave a unique tip for them, no. I believe that some restaurants split tips between the staff so indirectly I may have before. Of course, chefs and cooks are paid differently than wait staff.

Is it commonplace to tip a chef directly? (assuming the order was directly off the menu)

Ok Im done hijacking the thread

[WildBlueSooner]

Originally Posted by Big Vito

Ok Im done hijacking the thread

Okay, I'm throwing the Penalty Flag at Sauer Grapes for Unsportsmanlike Conduct!!!

#1 - WHATEVER you tip the waiter/waitress is split between the Host (the jacka$$ that asks "how many in your party") and the Bartender - no MATTER if you had drinks or not. The Chef/Cook doesn't get sh*t. Anyone who has ever waited tables knows this.

#2 - You use a cabbie/hack to get you from Point A to Point B as fast as you can, right?? You're not paying for the scenic route, right?? So, in effect, you are actually relying upon his/her knowledge to get to/through and in/around any traffic/congestion as fast as they can, right?? and THAT DOESN'T DESERVE A TIP??



Okay, rant mode off.

As for Kane, who is even remotely surprised that yet ANOTHER "professional" athlete did something stupid?? Million Dollar contracts and dumber than &^%$ when it comes to common sense.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by tobii3

Million Dollar contracts and dumber than &^%$ when it comes to common sense.

Like military contractors?

[WildBlueSooner]

Originally Posted by icehog3

Like military contractors?

that's the best you can come up with??

that's it??



When were ANY of these ""professional"" athletes in a life or death situation?

This kid was 20 years old. TWENTY.

You wanna compare Blackwater/Xe with these imbeciles??

let's compare the qualifications then, while we're at it.

Ice skating, hitting a puck, beating a cabbie. Wow...real tough.

[Sauer Grapes]

Originally Posted by tobii3

Okay, I'm throwing the Penalty Flag at Sauer Grapes for Unsportsmanlike Conduct!!!

#1 - WHATEVER you tip the waiter/waitress is split between the Host (the jacka$$ that asks "how many in your party") and the Bartender - no MATTER if you had drinks or not. The Chef/Cook doesn't get sh*t. Anyone who has ever waited tables knows this.

#2 - You use a cabbie/hack to get you from Point A to Point B as fast as you can, right?? You're not paying for the scenic route, right?? So, in effect, you are actually relying upon his/her knowledge to get to/through and in/around any traffic/congestion as fast as they can, right?? and THAT DOESN'T DESERVE A TIP??



Okay, rant mode off.

oy vey, I guess I'll respond even though I thought vito had a great idea to drop the subject in this thread...

#1, I never said I tipped a cook, and only said that I may have indirectly without knowing in the past.

#2, I never said I didn't tip cabbies, just that I think tipping has gotten out of hand and people expect tips for everything now, and IMO, most of the time cabbies haven't done anything to earn a tip. In response to your scenerio, in the rare instance I am taking a cab, it's in my city and the cabbie doesn't have any route knowledge I don't have myself. In fact, I more often than not find them taking a route I know to be slower.

No worries Sauer, that's why I threw the "Flag"!!!

[Sauer Grapes]

Originally Posted by tobii3

No worries Sauer, that's why I threw the "Flag"!!!

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by tobii3

that's the best you can come up with??

that's it??



When were ANY of these ""professional"" athletes in a life or death situation?

This kid was 20 years old. TWENTY.

You wanna compare Blackwater/Xe with these imbeciles??

let's compare the qualifications then, while we're at it.

Ice skating, hitting a puck, beating a cabbie. Wow...real tough.

That's the best you got?

You were talking about "Million Dollar contracts and dumber than &^%$ when it comes to common sense." That's what I responded to, not to a question of whether it is more tough/dangerous/whatever to be in the military as compared to being an athlete. If you are going to argue to something that is your twist on what I said, and not what I actually said, knock yourself out.

I have the utmost respect for the brave men and women of the military...but hard to deny a lot of corrpution/criminality and lack of common sense from some of their contractors.

Oh, ice skating and "hitting a puck" ain't as easy as it looks, either.