Sometimes you call a spade a spade

[fissure]

Just got an email from the accused.

All packages that had not been sent out have been sent as of last night/this morning. Only ones he hasn't shipped out is 2 to canada and one to the UK. Take it for what its worth, just the messenger. Hopefully this is true and they will all arrive shortly

Originally Posted by fissure

Just got an email from the accused.

All packages that had not been sent out have been sent as of last night/this morning. Only ones he hasn't shipped out is 2 to canada and one to the UK. Take it for what its worth, just the messenger. Hopefully this is true and they will all arrive shortly

Seems I have heard this story before. No offense to fissure at all who has gone above and beyond in trying to sort this out for the many involved. My thanks for that

Originally Posted by Hardcz

With what's left to send out for the cigar group buy I will need to pm elderboy for his address still.

DANIEL BALL JR
Delivery Confirmation™ Label Number: 0103 8555 7498 1777 2791
ADAM JAFFE
Delivery Confirmation™ Label Number: 0103 8555 7496 8149 8728
JAYMZ
Delivery Confirmation™ Label Number: 0103 8555 7498 3874 4319
FRANCIS CARDULLO
Delivery Confirmation™ Label Number: 0103 8555 7498 2825 8550
CLIFFORD BAGWELL
Delivery Confirmation™ Label Number: 0103 8555 7497 9680 1277
MICHAEL S. POWERS
Delivery Confirmation™ Label Number: 0103 8555 7498 0728 7038
SHAWN THOMPSON
Priority Mail International® Label Number: CJ194143480US


I will hand deliver the last two to Buena Fortuna who received his other cigars as these last two arrived much later.

I need to make a print label for dentonparrots, jbailey, and rhnewfie. I have one for lostark at home still, and confirm ScottW as I thought I had mailed his already but may not have.

Here for the thread

If cigars do show up I will be surprised. But even if they do, hardcz has already informed me it will not be as many as I ordered or what I ordered.

For purposes of fairness I had quite a few small transactions with hardcz prior to this and all where without incident. This does not make me feel better, it actually makes me feel worse as I feel I have been set up. I have no proof of that hence why it was not said in the original post but that is what my gut tells me.

As for the comments in Don Fernando's post regarding someone expecting 125 but only paid and is getting 50

Originally Posted by Hardcz

Shawn,

I spoke to ****, he said he sizes you wanted could take a while to find molds to make, as he does not have them. He offered up these instead as he actually has them right now.

Please let me know and I'll get all this started.

(75) baby Salomones (6 3/8 x 52)- $225 this cigar has the same shape as a Salomone (7.25 X 57), but just a bit shorter

(50) Sublime Extra pigtail/shagfoot (6 1/2 X 54)-$250 actually about an inch longer if you include the shagfoot

When I said I only posted the facts in my initial post, I in fact only posted the facts that I could support.

There where many chat conversations that I do not still have. I was only informed less than 2 weeks ago that I would only be recieving 50 sticks and that I would not be getting the baby Salamoes or the Sublime Extra's (I was not even informed what I would be getting)

[Sancho]

Originally Posted by SilverFox

As for the comments in Don Fernando's post regarding someone expecting 125 but only paid and is getting 50



You do the math, perhaps I am stupid

So you were under the impression you were getting ____ _ for $3 a stick and $5 a stick respectively?

Originally Posted by Sancho

So you were under the impression you were getting ____ _ for $3 a stick and $5 a stick respectively?

Is this a question??

[fissure]

Thanks for the vote of confidence Shawn. I don't want to be in the middle or any part of this.....But I want to see all you guys get your cigars.

Shawn, the story I got from Dan was that what he sent you in the pm you posted was what he got from the supplier. The 75 and the 50 was supposed to be what the supplier had in stock at the moment (3 bundles and 2 bundles). The price was per bundle, which makes a lot more sense for that size. At the prices you thought, I would have jumped on 100 of them Sounds like that's where the mis communication might have been??

Originally Posted by fissure

Thanks for the vote of confidence Shawn. I don't want to be in the middle or any part of this.....But I want to see all you guys get your cigars.

Shawn, the story I got from Dan was that what he sent you in the pm you posted was what he got from the supplier. The 75 and the 50 was supposed to be what the supplier had in stock at the moment (3 bundles and 2 bundles). The price was per bundle, which makes a lot more sense for that size. At the prices you thought, I would have jumped on 100 of them Sounds like that's where the mis communication might have been??

Yup I would agree other than I confirmed the amount of sticks and pricing so that may have been the information he was working with but it was not the information I was working with.



An excerpt from Dan's email to me of June 9th.

[FONT=&quot]Shawn,

I thought I had all of your cigars in the first shipment, which was two bundles of baby salamones, *simarones* as **** put it. I am missing the petit salamones for you still.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]I have not shipped because I don't have all your cigars. I can ship two seperate if you want half of them now.[/FONT]


Now if he had 2 bundles and it was only half that would imply at least 100 cigars not 50.

Perhaps I was confused. Frankly I doubt it, but I am not perfect. I know I confirmed it, yet I cannot find the PM or the email (other than the above) so it is only my word.

Originally Posted by SilverFox

....... I know I confirmed it, yet I cannot find the PM or the email (other than the above) so it is only my word.

Nuff said.

[fissure]

Originally Posted by SilverFox

Yup I would agree other than I confirmed the amount of sticks and pricing so that may have been the information he was working with but it was not the information I was working with.



An excerpt from Dan's email to me of June 9th.

[FONT=&quot]Shawn,

I thought I had all of your cigars in the first shipment, which was two bundles of baby salamones, *simarones* as **** put it. I am missing the petit salamones for you still.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]I have not shipped because I don't have all your cigars. I can ship two seperate if you want half of them now.[/FONT]


Now if he had 2 bundles and it was only half that would imply at least 100 cigars not 50.

Perhaps I was confused. Frankly I doubt it, but I am not perfect. I know I confirmed it, yet I cannot find the PM or the email (other than the above) so it is only my word.

Yup, enough said. That excerpt from his emails says he thought that's what you were getting too. Sounds like he was the one confused.

[Old Sailor]

Mostly I've been having problems sending stuff out due to my own depression issues. I'm not saying it's a valid reason, just what my therapist and me have come to. These group buys along with the rest of the stuff in my life is causing me to sort of break down. to quote Dan



Depression....I have suffered with it for 10 years, never once has it come in the way of sending stuff out or communicating with people who I owe....do what I did, get on some meds.

Originally Posted by Old Sailor

Mostly I've been having problems sending stuff out due to my own depression issues. I'm not saying it's a valid reason, just what my therapist and me have come to. These group buys along with the rest of the stuff in my life is causing me to sort of break down. to quote Dan



Depression....I have suffered with it for 10 years, never once has it come in the way of sending stuff out or communicating with people who I owe....do what I did, get on some meds.

All my adult life here Dave, and we know I can send out a package

[Skywalker]

Owned!!!

I like that "thumbs down" picture!!!






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[Negncic]

I have been waiting on Dan's end of a trade from February. He never said he sent them, just a series of excuses. I forgot, life problems, etc. Promises to send out the sticks that were never fulfilled.