Michael Vick Reinstated to NFL

bigloo · 07-27-2009, 05:31 PM

Andy, he will play. There have been NFL stars convicted of crimes as serisou as manslaughter who have played when released. Take Leonard Little as a prize example.

07-27-2009, 05:41 PM

all you gotta do is look at the Dallas Cowboys during the 90's for a list of criminals.

Pretty pathetic, really.

Mr. Ed · 07-27-2009, 06:17 PM

I really don't think he is that great or can be a legit starting QB for anyone this season.

He hasn't played football for two years, and wasn't that great when he was playing. A lot of fumbles(a fact that never seems to be brought up), poor pass completion percentage, a lot of sacks, and a 1.4 to 1 TD/INT ratio. He sure could run the ball though...

http://www.nfl.com/players/profile?id=VIC311467

My prediction is that he wallows on the bench as a third stringer or doesn't get sign at worst, or becomes a guy that plays 3 or 4 plays a game in some Wild Cat Formation at best.

blugill · 07-27-2009, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Ed

I really don't think he is that great or can be a legit starting QB for anyone this season.

He hasn't played football for two years, and wasn't that great when he was playing. A lot of fumbles(a fact that never seems to be brought up), poor pass completion percentage, a lot of sacks, and a 1.4 to 1 TD/INT ratio. He sure could run the ball though...

http://www.nfl.com/players/profile?id=VIC311467

My prediction is that he wallows on the bench as a third stringer or doesn't get sign at worst, or becomes a guy that plays 3 or 4 plays a game in some Wild Cat Formation at best.

Or the UFL awaits Mr. Vick.

white_s2k · 07-27-2009, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tobii3

all you gotta do is look at the Dallas Cowboys during the 90's for a list of criminals.

Pretty pathetic, really.

Nobody deserves a second chance. You're totally right.

07-27-2009, 06:42 PM

Second Chance is a type of Body Armor.

LINK

NOT an approach towards athletes who piss their careers away.

bigloo · 07-27-2009, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by white_s2k

Nobody deserves a second chance. You're totally right.

Comparing pro athletes making millions to normal people is faulty IMHO. These guys are given the world and all they need to do it keep their noses clean. Additionally,they make their money due to support from fans and somehow confuse this for being above the law. I dont think kids should support any athlete who had commited a crime. I could go on and on. Do they deserve a 2nd chance? Sure... do they deserve our support... hell no.

Starscream · 07-27-2009, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dubnick

I've heard rumor of the Panthers

I don't see where he'd fit in here, although I'd love to see someone come in and do a better job than Delhomme.

Starscream · 07-27-2009, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bigloo

Do they deserve a 2nd chance? Sure... do they deserve our support... hell no.

Some of the most influential people in the world are/were reformed criminals. St. Paul comes to mind when reading the above statement. Not that I think Vick will become a saint by any means, but he has served his time (much more time than some NFL players who are convicted of manslaughter and only served 60-90 days). He may turn himself around (doubtful, but you never know).

taltos · 07-27-2009, 07:37 PM

I guess that I am on the other side of things from most of the posters in this thread. If it had only been the dogs, I could accept him coming back into the league but he financed and ran a gambling operation. This is the one thing that could destroy the credibility of the NFL if he were in a game and threw a poorly timed pick-6. I realize in the past that Paul Hornung and one of his team mates served a shorter suspension for gambling but gambling is far more pervasive now. This is the one sin that I personally am unable to forgive. I wish him well and hope that he becomes a contributing member of society but I doubt it. A couple of days after he got out and met with the Commissioner, reports are that he met with Alan Iverson and went to a titty bar. Does not sound like the rehab has gone too far.

07-27-2009, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by andysutherland

Some of the most influential people in the world are/were reformed criminals.

That's just wonderful.

Who speaks for their victims??

Oh that's right, the victims don't get a second chance.

Starscream · 07-27-2009, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tobii3

Who speaks for their victims??

Oh that's right, the victims don't get a second chance.

I wholeheartedly agree.

07-27-2009, 06:44 PM

First thing that happenned in Atlanta after they dumped his azz as qb is they went to the playoffs. 'Nuff said.

blugill · 07-27-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bigloo

Andy, he will play. There have been NFL stars convicted of crimes as serisou as manslaughter who have played when released. Take Leonard Little as a prize example.

Barry Bonds is out of a job because no team wanted that circus anymore. He, thus far, isn't convicted of anything.

You are right that there have been lots of NFL stars convicted of crimes and have played afterward. Probably even more have never been convicted of anything and are more guilty than Vick. The fact of the matter though is that Vick is probably the highest profile athlete in the highest profile position and that commands tons of scrutiny.

I guess the major question would be would the fans accept Vick or shun the team because of Vick? If you were an owner would YOU take that chance?

I'm glad he is reinstated. He paid for his crimes, our country is very forgiving. That doesn't mean he is entitled to his old job again though.

I know if I had a slip up in my job I would be without a job and it would not be there waiting on me when I got released.

07-27-2009, 05:31 PM	#1
bigloo Crazy like a fox Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Lu Location: Rose City Posts: 905 Trading: (27)	Re: Michael Vick Reinstated to NFL Andy, he will play. There have been NFL stars convicted of crimes as serisou as manslaughter who have played when released. Take Leonard Little as a prize example.

07-27-2009, 05:41 PM	#2
tobii3 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Michael Vick Reinstated to NFL all you gotta do is look at the Dallas Cowboys during the 90's for a list of criminals. Pretty pathetic, really.

07-27-2009, 06:17 PM	#3
Mr. Ed A horse is a horse... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ed...duh Location: THE Burgh Posts: 499 Trading: (6)	Re: Michael Vick Reinstated to NFL I really don't think he is that great or can be a legit starting QB for anyone this season. He hasn't played football for two years, and wasn't that great when he was playing. A lot of fumbles(a fact that never seems to be brought up), poor pass completion percentage, a lot of sacks, and a 1.4 to 1 TD/INT ratio. He sure could run the ball though... http://www.nfl.com/players/profile?id=VIC311467 My prediction is that he wallows on the bench as a third stringer or doesn't get sign at worst, or becomes a guy that plays 3 or 4 plays a game in some Wild Cat Formation at best.

07-27-2009, 06:42 PM	#6
tobii3 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Michael Vick Reinstated to NFL Second Chance is a type of Body Armor. LINK NOT an approach towards athletes who piss their careers away.

07-27-2009, 07:37 PM	#10
taltos Really, really old Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Paul Location: Saugus, MA Posts: 2,486 Trading: (3)	Re: Michael Vick Reinstated to NFL I guess that I am on the other side of things from most of the posters in this thread. If it had only been the dogs, I could accept him coming back into the league but he financed and ran a gambling operation. This is the one thing that could destroy the credibility of the NFL if he were in a game and threw a poorly timed pick-6. I realize in the past that Paul Hornung and one of his team mates served a shorter suspension for gambling but gambling is far more pervasive now. This is the one sin that I personally am unable to forgive. I wish him well and hope that he becomes a contributing member of society but I doubt it. A couple of days after he got out and met with the Commissioner, reports are that he met with Alan Iverson and went to a titty bar. Does not sound like the rehab has gone too far. __________________ Jimmy, some of its magic, some of its tragic, but I had a good life all the way. He Went to Paris, J. Buffett

07-27-2009, 06:44 PM	#13
Resipsa Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Michael Vick Reinstated to NFL First thing that happenned in Atlanta after they dumped his azz as qb is they went to the playoffs. 'Nuff said.