R.I.P. Hav-A-Tampa, Cigar City loses another one.

[SeanGAR]

Originally Posted by andysutherland

nafta?

I hate NAFTA and giving communist red china most favored trading status. We need to keep the good jobs here. Free trade looks fine, but if the other side of the fence pays 1.00 and hour, how can we compete here? American workers are incredibly productive, but not THAT productive to make up 20 times wage difference.

RaiderinKS makes some damned good points about the consumerism we see today.

Hell, my kids ask for iphones and they're 12. When I was their age, I was happy to eat pigs in blankets and KD in front of a snowy B&W TV. A cell phone was out of the question (even if it was invented back then).

I remember a number of years ago Walmart advertised that products were made in the USA. When was the last time we saw that?