Best place to buy Illusiones 68?

[bigloo]

A couple of things:

1) Retailers should be allowed to gain business to survive. Selling the same $10 cigar in NY City and Middle-of-Nowhere Town is not fair. the manufacturer gets the same price regardless. The retailers should not have the menufacturers dictate how they do business, it is bully tactics. For example, if a retailer wants to clear his inventory because it is not moving, he should be allowed to at any price he choses.

2) That being said, the small retailers will be bullied. They are also the same retailers who come on here to help out BOTLS by offering excellent prices and in doing so, gain some very valuable business (people on this board are the holy-grail of cigar customers, high volume, regular and high quality purchases).

3) So, to maintain this, we should protect these retailers by keeping info private, PM is our friend. We have a couple of these retailers here, those who pay attention know who they are, those who dont read the retailer threads and figure out the rest.

4) I wish we had more of these retailers

[VirtualSmitty]

Originally Posted by bigloo

A couple of things:

1) Retailers should be allowed to gain business to survive. Selling the same $10 cigar in NY City and Middle-of-Nowhere Town is not fair.

Why not? For arguments sake, let's say i'm Pete Johnson. My Tatuaje cigars are the talk of the town right now and I want people to think of them as a super premium cigar along the likes of Davidoff. So to maintain that image I set price limitations for what retailers can charge. If they don't like it they don't have to buy it. I don't want people buying brown label tats for half price, if they want something cheaper I want them buying the white label tats. How is it fair if I allow a small shop to undercharge for my product when I have large volume accounts that play by the rules? Isn't that unfair to the people giving me the most business?

[bigloo]

Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty

Why not? For arguments sake, let's say i'm Pete Johnson. My Tatuaje cigars are the talk of the town right now and I want people to think of them as a super premium cigar along the likes of Davidoff. So to maintain that image I set price limitations for what retailers can charge. If they don't like it they don't have to buy it. I don't want people buying brown label tats for half price, if they want something cheaper I want them buying the white label tats. How is it fair if I allow a small shop to undercharge for my product when I have large volume accounts that play by the rules? Isn't that unfair to the people giving me the most business?

Smitty, I understand were you are coming from. I think the argument I have is the non-advertised price. You cannot sell the same level or luxury good in NYC as you can in other parts of the country. So it is one thing to have a MAP, but retailers should be allowed to sell at a level they can survive. Thats my main point.

[elderboy02]

Originally Posted by bigloo

Smitty, I understand were you are coming from. I think the argument I have is the non-advertised price. You cannot sell the same level or luxury good in NYC as you can in other parts of the country. So it is one thing to have a MAP, but retailers should be allowed to sell at a level they can survive. Thats my main point.

Exactly. I read in an interview somewhere where Pete Johnson said something like, If a retailer wants to sell his cigars to someone cheaper in the store, he didn't care as long as they advertised the high price online.