Madeira - No. 1 Drink for Cigars

[landhoney]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

How many have something in a bottle/barrell over 100 years old?

I do (almost) and its Madeira, 1910. Berns Steakhouse got me on my Madeira kick. They have a wide selection. It's the perfect wine for 'by the glass'; because its already oxidized they can serve glasses from an open bottle for years without ill affects. Oldest I've had is a 1897 Sercial(my fave). And because they're heated in the aging/conditioning process you don't have to keep them cool in a cellar (but I do anyway).
BTW, there are no 'very dry' Madeiras that I know of (may be wrong). The driest I believe is the Sercial, and by regular standards it is not 'very dry'. I would say they range from fairly sweet to verrrry sweet.

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by landhoney

BTW, there are no 'very dry' Madeiras that I know of (may be wrong). The driest I believe is the Sercial, and by regular standards it is not 'very dry'. I would say they range from fairly sweet to verrrry sweet.

Have you tried Terrentez, Bastardo, or Verdelho? Here's a picture of the oldest Madeira I have had last holiday season. Might be too hard to top it this year.

I know of a Madeira event planned that will be the biggest ever held with deepest selection of Madeira going back to late 17th century. Will be about 2K a head though

You might look at a couple of great articles on Madeira published a couple of years ago by cigar lover Doug Kuebler:

Part 1

Part 2

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by ElkTwin

You might look at a couple of great articles on Madeira published a couple of years ago by cigar lover Doug Kuebler:

Part 1

Part 2

Great read! Finally, I am not the only preaching Madeira to the cigar community!

I'd try to get people on Sherry bandwagon too, but that is a difficult sell, as the oxidized taste is aquired.

[aldukes]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

Great read! Finally, I am not the only preaching Madeira to the cigar community!

I'd try to get people on Sherry bandwagon too, but that is a difficult sell, as the oxidized taste is aquired.

please dont tell people about sherry. Its still one of the best deals around in the world of wine. nothing beats some nice PX on a late saturday afternoon.

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by aldukes

please dont tell people about sherry. Its still one of the best deals around in the world of wine. nothing beats some nice PX on a late saturday afternoon.

Lips are sealed...

Oloroso is my favorite. PX is great in small amounts.

[jquirit]

So, I'm having particularly bad luck finding Madeiras in my area. They drink a lot of wine, but the more 'niche' ones aren't carried much out here. One thought they carried Madeiras but turned out to be a port. So, do any of you know a good online resource for ordering Madeiras that won't charge me an arm and a leg?

[landhoney]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

Have you tried Terrentez, Bastardo, or Verdelho?

All but the Bastardo. But none were 'very dry' to me, but I guess its all relative. But the adding of brandy/spirits to halt fermentation, and the fact that they all have some residual sugar don't add up to very dry to me. I think this is just semantics. That 1795 sounds great, if they're still around in a few years I may............

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by landhoney

That 1795 sounds great, if they're still around in a few years I may............

I bet there's some around (or even older), but be prepared to pay like 7K for the bottle. There's an amazing selection of Madeira coming to auction next weekend.

[landhoney]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

I know of a Madeira event planned that will be the biggest ever held with deepest selection of Madeira going back to late 17th century. Will be about 2K a head though

Details?

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by landhoney

Details?

Not yet. My friend is planning and just told me about it yesterday. The plan was to charge per head rather than trying to line people up with their bottles. All the bottles are already sourced. Will update as I get further details. I think it will happen in NYC.