Oh no! I found a beetle!

[Tenor CS]

Question: I've seen beetles chew holes through cello. Can they chew through thicker plastic, like ziploc bags, or even food-saver bags?

[SmokinApe]

Originally Posted by Tenor CS

Question: I've seen beetles chew holes through cello. Can they chew through thicker plastic, like ziploc bags, or even food-saver bags?

Yes

[bobarian]

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Question: I've seen beetles chew holes through cello. Can they chew through thicker plastic, like ziploc bags, or even food-saver bags?

Originally Posted by SmokinApe

Yes

I have seen no evidence of this, please cite a source. Cello is a natural plant byproduct and like paper or tobacco can be consumed by Lasioderma serricorne, the tobacco beetle. Books and other paper products are also susceptible, but I never seen any reference to beetles eating any petroleum based products.

Of course there are those beetles with armor teeth who can chew through aluminum tubos, but that is another subject.

[SeanGAR]

Originally Posted by bobarian

I have seen no evidence of this, please cite a source. Cello is a natural plant byproduct and like paper or tobacco can be consumed by Lasioderma serricorne, the tobacco beetle. Books and other paper products are also susceptible, but I never seen any reference to beetles eating any petroleum based products.

Really good point and one I'd like to see clarified one way or the other.

The point Beer Doctor made about studying a lab strain is also really important. Canola oil was developed because some research from France suggested rapeseed oil caused fat infiltration in rat hearts. 15 years later, it became clear that the problem was the lab's rat colony being inbred ... same problems weren't seen in mice, typical Sprague Dawley or Wistar lab rats or other animals. The French lab's inbred rat colony did not behave normally. But by the time that was clarified, Canadian researchers had developed low erucic acid low glucosinolate rapeseed oil, which was subsequently renamed Canola. If it wasn't for that French lab's strangely behaving inbred rats, Canola would never have happened.

[SmokinApe]

Originally Posted by bobarian

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Originally Posted by Tenor CS View Post
Question: I've seen beetles chew holes through cello. Can they chew through thicker plastic, like ziploc bags, or even food-saver bags?




I have seen no evidence of this, please cite a source. Cello is a natural plant byproduct and like paper or tobacco can be consumed by Lasioderma serricorne, the tobacco beetle. Books and other paper products are also susceptible, but I never seen any reference to beetles eating any petroleum based products.

Of course there are those beetles with armor teeth who can chew through aluminum tubos, but that is another subject.

I don't have a source. No pictures and no documented case studies... I though cello was petroleum based... This still doesn't mean they won't chew through a zip lock...

[SlickBT]

After reading this thread, I started looking through my humidor and coolers to check for evidence of beeltes. Unfortunately, I found two boxes from one manufacturer that were infested. Looks like I lost about 18 sticks. Everything else is going through the freeze process, but that may take a while.

I have been very careful with temperature and humidity, pretty much right at 65 degrees and 66-68%. I am not exactly sure what I can do to avoid this in the future.

Originally Posted by SlickBT

After reading this thread, I started looking through my humidor and coolers to check for evidence of beeltes. Unfortunately, I found two boxes from one manufacturer that were infested. Looks like I lost about 18 sticks. Everything else is going through the freeze process, but that may take a while.

I have been very careful with temperature and humidity, pretty much right at 65 degrees and 66-68%. I am not exactly sure what I can do to avoid this in the future.

After reading and posting in this thread I went through all my loose singles and boxes to ensure no infestation. However, I had a nightmare last night where I left my cooler in the sun for a whole day that caused all of my sticks to become infested. I was so glad when I woke up

[14holestogie]

I had one in a tubo from a domestic vendor.

If you've yet to see a beetle, rest assured, you probably will at one point if you're not freezing or maintaining your cigars in a cool environment.

I also believe that there is not a vendor out there who has not sold cigars that at one time or another had some beetle issues, so a vendor call-out only serves a limited purpose.

[Skywalker]

Originally Posted by Tenor CS

Question: I've seen beetles chew holes through cello. Can they chew through thicker plastic, like ziploc bags, or even food-saver bags?

They can chew through your arm, Man!!!

[Tenor CS]

Originally Posted by Skywalker

They can chew through your arm, Man!!!

Holy crap! If one of those landed on me, I'd poop a chicken.

[Skywalker]

Originally Posted by Tenor CS

Holy crap! If one of those landed on me, I'd poop a chicken.

A chicken would poop a chicken!!! That thing's the size of a chicken!!!

Seriously, Sorry for changing the nature of this thread!!!

[Don Fernando]

Originally Posted by Tenor CS

Holy crap! If one of those landed on me, I'd poop a chicken.

If one of those landed on me, I would turn on the deep fryer and turn it into a snack

[taltos]

Originally Posted by Don Fernando

If one of those landed on me, I would turn on the deep fryer and turn it into a snack

Protein!