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Old 04-14-2009, 12:21 PM   #1
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Open sea is no-man's land, outside the 12 mile zone it is an international crime.
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Old 04-14-2009, 02:49 PM   #2
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Open sea is no-man's land, outside the 12 mile zone it is an international crime.
I was led to believe the ship itself is sovereign territory.
Then since there is no international police force to deal with it, anyone can do anything, anytime?
My house is not federal territory, kidnapping is a federal crime. I can defend myself and my house without help from any federal authority, since self defense is a God-given right. I would think anyone has the right to self defense anywhere, especially on a ship in international waters where nobody else can decide what to do.
I wonder if there is any money to be made in independent pirate hunting.
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Old 04-14-2009, 03:08 PM   #3
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The ships are not armed because there are regulations in just about every country prohibiting the vessels from carrying firearms.

The problem with someone outfitting a ship as a "privateer" (that used to be the term used for vessels sailing under say, the Spanish flag, and hunting down vessels of another country) is that you would become a bigger target than the pirates.
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Humm.....ships are made of steel.....pirate boats, probably fiberglass......eat steel ya slimey little **** runem over!!
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Old 04-15-2009, 05:28 PM   #7
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Gun was an MK-11 from what I've read

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Humm.....ships are made of steel.....pirate boats, probably fiberglass......eat steel ya slimey little **** runem over!!
My neighbor is a merchant marine (just left for sea yesterday) and we've talked on this issue before. Making a wake is about the best the large ships can do. They are not nimble enough to start ramming pirate boats. They could easily sink them if they could.

Most of the pirates go for low sidewall boats and get on at night. The issue of preventing pirate attacks is more complex and has a risk vs. cost element to it that the shipping companies appear to be OK with.
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I was led to believe the ship itself is sovereign territory.
Then since there is no international police force to deal with it, anyone can do anything, anytime?
My house is not federal territory, kidnapping is a federal crime. I can defend myself and my house without help from any federal authority, since self defense is a God-given right. I would think anyone has the right to self defense anywhere, especially on a ship in international waters where nobody else can decide what to do.
I wonder if there is any money to be made in independent pirate hunting.
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Old 04-15-2009, 01:38 PM   #10
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I would think there could be a way to lead convoys under armed guard.
I like the idea of having sucker ships and disappearing pirates. Dead men tell no tales.
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