Somali Pirates - Page 4

CBI_2 · 04-14-2009, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RGD.

I for one was elated to read the news reports. It's always just kinda pissed me off that a handful of "pirates" in little speed boats could actually take over a big ass ship like they do. So yeah - kudos to the Navy Seals on not wasting any bullets - 3 bad guys, 3 Navy Seals, 3 bullets! Practice pays off.

But why stop here. We have satellites, AWACS and all that other secret spy stuff at our disposal - so why not use it for more practice.

1 pirate mother ship.
1 US Navy attack submarine
1 torpedo.
Practice.

1 pirate strong hold.
1 Arleigh Burke class destroyer.
1 Tomahawk Block IV cruise missile.
Practice

1 pirate speed boat.
1 Navy/Marine AH-1 SuperCobra
1 AGM-114 Hellfire
Practice

The list could go on.

And before I forget - kudos to France also for jumping in and kicking some butt themselves.

Ron

Practice in real time.

Wolfgang · 04-13-2009, 10:04 PM

"Dead men tell no tales" Take out every pirate on board simultaneously.

MedicCook · 04-13-2009, 10:08 PM

Just don't kill the dread pirate roberts.

icehog3 · 04-13-2009, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook

Just don't kill the dread pirate roberts.

MedicCook · 04-13-2009, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

That is my second favorite movie of all time.

MedicCook · 04-14-2009, 07:19 AM

Pirates I am sure will fall into the category of the World Justice System that I have been hearing about.

replicant_argent · 04-14-2009, 10:33 AM

I thought you might get a chuckle from this, Ferd...
http://www.thoseshirts.com/images/imaoun500.gif

04-14-2009, 11:38 AM

It's not an international crime.
Each case would be a crime by the pirates against the citizens on the ship, committed on the sovereign soil of the ship's registered country. So in the case of the kidnapped captain, it was as if the pirates came ashore and kidnapped him in Massachusetts and held him there.
Just like an illegal alien robbing a liquor store.
Now if the take the persons they kidnapped ashore it gets complicated.
IANAL, this is just how I have seen it explained.

Don Fernando · 04-14-2009, 12:21 PM

Open sea is no-man's land, outside the 12 mile zone it is an international crime.

04-14-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Fernando

Open sea is no-man's land, outside the 12 mile zone it is an international crime.

I was led to believe the ship itself is sovereign territory.
Then since there is no international police force to deal with it, anyone can do anything, anytime?
My house is not federal territory, kidnapping is a federal crime. I can defend myself and my house without help from any federal authority, since self defense is a God-given right. I would think anyone has the right to self defense anywhere, especially on a ship in international waters where nobody else can decide what to do.
I wonder if there is any money to be made in independent pirate hunting.

macpappy · 04-14-2009, 03:08 PM

The ships are not armed because there are regulations in just about every country prohibiting the vessels from carrying firearms.

The problem with someone outfitting a ship as a "privateer" (that used to be the term used for vessels sailing under say, the Spanish flag, and hunting down vessels of another country) is that you would become a bigger target than the pirates.

icehog3 · 04-14-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ahc4353

Al for President?

As soon as I move to Canada.

Old Sailor · 04-15-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

As soon as I move to Canada.

Welcome to Canada, Admiral

DPD6030 · 04-15-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BC-Axeman

I was led to believe the ship itself is sovereign territory.
Then since there is no international police force to deal with it, anyone can do anything, anytime?
My house is not federal territory, kidnapping is a federal crime. I can defend myself and my house without help from any federal authority, since self defense is a God-given right. I would think anyone has the right to self defense anywhere, especially on a ship in international waters where nobody else can decide what to do.
I wonder if there is any money to be made in independent pirate hunting.

Hey Lance, where do I sign up?

04-15-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BC-Axeman

I wonder if there is any money to be made in independent pirate hunting.

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Originally Posted by DPD6030

Hey Lance, where do I sign up?

S. O. F. ?

I would think there could be a way to lead convoys under armed guard.
I like the idea of having sucker ships and disappearing pirates. Dead men tell no tales.

04-14-2009, 12:22 PM

Who would know if you just sunk the whole pirate ship?

BamBam · 04-14-2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ahc4353

Who would know if you just sunk the whole pirate ship?

I like how you think Al

dunng · 04-14-2009, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ahc4353

Who would know if you just sunk the whole pirate ship?

replicant_argent · 04-14-2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ahc4353

Who would know if you just sunk the whole pirate ship?

What pirate ship? There are no pirates....

04-14-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by replicant_argent

What pirate ship? There are no pirates....

Exactly.

04-13-2009, 10:04 PM	#2
Wolfgang Back from the dead Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tampa, Fl Posts: 2,541 Trading: (14)	Re: Somali Pirates "Dead men tell no tales" Take out every pirate on board simultaneously. __________________ You probably wont remember that test you failed, but you'll never forget the girl you were with the night before, when you decided not to study.

04-13-2009, 10:08 PM	#3
MedicCook Mila smoked my cigar Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Ryan Location: Schaghticoke, NY Posts: 10,946 Trading: (7)	Re: Somali Pirates Just don't kill the dread pirate roberts.

04-14-2009, 07:19 AM	#6
MedicCook Mila smoked my cigar Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Ryan Location: Schaghticoke, NY Posts: 10,946 Trading: (7)	Re: Somali Pirates Pirates I am sure will fall into the category of the World Justice System that I have been hearing about.

04-14-2009, 10:33 AM	#7
replicant_argent Gravy Boat Winnah. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Pete Location: my attorney has advised against giving this information to insane people Posts: 5,326 Trading: (22)	Re: Somali Pirates I thought you might get a chuckle from this, Ferd... http://www.thoseshirts.com/images/imaoun500.gif __________________ www.stogietorch.com Some days call for a stiff Pomade.

04-14-2009, 11:38 AM	#8
BC-Axeman Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Somali Pirates It's not an international crime. Each case would be a crime by the pirates against the citizens on the ship, committed on the sovereign soil of the ship's registered country. So in the case of the kidnapped captain, it was as if the pirates came ashore and kidnapped him in Massachusetts and held him there. Just like an illegal alien robbing a liquor store. Now if the take the persons they kidnapped ashore it gets complicated. IANAL, this is just how I have seen it explained.

04-14-2009, 12:21 PM	#9
Don Fernando Postwhore Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ferdinand Location: Singapore Posts: 10,070 Trading: (29)	Re: Somali Pirates Open sea is no-man's land, outside the 12 mile zone it is an international crime. __________________ check out my reviews on my blog.

04-14-2009, 03:08 PM	#11
macpappy Rider on the storm. Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Slidell, LA Posts: 851 Trading: (0)	Re: Somali Pirates The ships are not armed because there are regulations in just about every country prohibiting the vessels from carrying firearms. The problem with someone outfitting a ship as a "privateer" (that used to be the term used for vessels sailing under say, the Spanish flag, and hunting down vessels of another country) is that you would become a bigger target than the pirates. __________________ WARNING: I am a Southern White Male. I have a brain and I know how to use it.

04-14-2009, 12:22 PM	#16
ahc4353 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Somali Pirates Who would know if you just sunk the whole pirate ship?