Question about term - HABANOS

TripleF · 03-11-2009, 10:55 AM

I frequently see the word HABANO used on NC (non-cuban) cigars:

Pinar Del Rio Habano Sun Grown
Perdomo Habano
Padilla Habano
Cusano LXI Habano Sun Grown
and on and on and on and on....

The thing that throws me for a loop is that HABANOS generally refers to cc (cuban cigars)....

A guy started a HABANO pass thread and I thought he was referring to the above HABANO's not HABANA's. I was wrong.

Why do we never see the word HABANO used on a cc label, always HABANA.

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang, now I think I'm more confused...

Looking forward to the answer, because I am HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE Habano fan!!!

bobarian · 03-11-2009, 11:01 AM

Habana=Havana=City
Habanos is most commonly associated with LCDH La Case De Habanos the official store for Habanos, S.A. the worldwide distributor of Cuban Cigars.

croatan · 03-11-2009, 11:05 AM

Ciudad de la Habana is the city (Havana). Habano means something from Habana.

Habana (as opposed to Habano) is typically on the label of a Cuban cigar for the same reason Nicaragua, as opposed to Nicaraguan, would be on the label of a cigar from that country.

I believe that non-Cuban cigar companies use the term to denote Cuban-seed tobacco, a cigar supposedly in the style of a Cuban cigar, or just for marketing reasons.

DPD6030 · 03-11-2009, 11:06 AM

Good question Scott.

Mr.Maduro · 03-11-2009, 11:06 AM

http://translate.google.com/translat...US277%26sa%3DX

shilala · 03-11-2009, 11:30 AM

Hey Scoot, this is some info on Habano wrappers. If you haven't tried a Padilla Habano yet, get up on it. They're awesome.

"In the non-Cuban cigar industry, the wrapper shade scale is expanded to include shades such as Candela (vegetal green) and Oscuro (black). “Habano wrapper/shade” is used in the non-Cuban industry to describe cigars that are Colorado or Colorado Maduro. “Habano wrapper” may also refer to cigars that are produced with “Cuban seed” tobacco; meaning that the tobacco in the cigar is not genuine Cuban tobacco but tobacco derived from original Cuban tobacco seeds but grown elsewhere such as the Dominican Republic or North America."

To make matters even more confusing, if you live in Havana, you are a Habano. Just like if you live in Florida you are a Floridian.
Add to that, habano just means "cigar" in Spanish.
I saw that thread where you got confused, and I can easily see why you did, because a "Habano Pass" means you would be passing Cubans who live in Havana.
Unless you're a spanish speaking individual, in which case it'd be a Habano Pase, rather than a Habano Pass.
If I had read it and I hadn't guessed they wanted to pass cc's, I'd have thought it was an all Habano wrapper pass when I saw the thread title, and I'd have gotten in.

Then we'd both be in the same knucklehead boat.

Since we're there, we might as well go fishin'. Whatta ya say?

TripleF · 03-11-2009, 11:44 AM

[quote=shilala;282360]Hey Scoot, this is some info on Habano wrappers. If you haven't tried a Padilla Habano yet, get up on it. They're awesome.

"In the non-Cuban cigar industry, the wrapper shade scale is expanded to include shades such as Candela (vegetal green) and Oscuro (black). “Habano wrapper/shade” is used in the non-Cuban industry to describe cigars that are Colorado or Colorado Maduro. “Habano wrapper” may also refer to cigars that are produced with “Cuban seed” tobacco; meaning that the tobacco in the cigar is not genuine Cuban tobacco but tobacco derived from original Cuban tobacco seeds but grown elsewhere such as the Dominican Republic or North America."

To make matters even more confusing, if you live in Havana, you are a Habano. Just like if you live in Florida you are a Floridian.
Add to that, habano just means "cigar" in Spanish.
I saw that thread where you got confused, and I can easily see why you did, because a "Habano Pass" means you would be passing Cubans who live in Havana.
Unless you're a spanish speaking individual, in which case it'd be a Habano Pase, rather than a Habano Pass.
If I had read it and I hadn't guessed they wanted to pass cc's, I'd have thought it was an all Habano wrapper pass when I saw the thread title, and I'd have gotten in.

Then we'd both be in the same knucklehead boat.

Since we're there, we might as well go fishin'. Whatta ya say?[/QUOTE]

Mights well.

03-11-2009, 11:48 AM

Great thread & great responses; this was killing me too.

shilala · 03-11-2009, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleF

Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala

Hey Scoot, this is some info on Habano wrappers. If you haven't tried a Padilla Habano yet, get up on it. They're awesome.

"In the non-Cuban cigar industry, the wrapper shade scale is expanded to include shades such as Candela (vegetal green) and Oscuro (black). “Habano wrapper/shade” is used in the non-Cuban industry to describe cigars that are Colorado or Colorado Maduro. “Habano wrapper” may also refer to cigars that are produced with “Cuban seed” tobacco; meaning that the tobacco in the cigar is not genuine Cuban tobacco but tobacco derived from original Cuban tobacco seeds but grown elsewhere such as the Dominican Republic or North America."

To make matters even more confusing, if you live in Havana, you are a Habano. Just like if you live in Florida you are a Floridian.
Add to that, habano just means "cigar" in Spanish.
I saw that thread where you got confused, and I can easily see why you did, because a "Habano Pass" means you would be passing Cubans who live in Havana.
Unless you're a spanish speaking individual, in which case it'd be a Habano Pase, rather than a Habano Pass.
If I had read it and I hadn't guessed they wanted to pass cc's, I'd have thought it was an all Habano wrapper pass when I saw the thread title, and I'd have gotten in.

Then we'd both be in the same knucklehead boat.

Since we're there, we might as well go fishin'. Whatta ya say?

Mights well.

I'll bring the Habanos.

MarkinAZ · 03-11-2009, 06:23 PM

My heads spinning. I gotta get out of this thread

ucla695 · 03-11-2009, 08:08 PM

Good info here. I always thought it was a marketing scheme and haven't really paid attention to it.

Starscream · 03-11-2009, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ucla695

Good info here. I always thought it was a marketing scheme and haven't really paid attention to it.

Thanks for the info.

Sailchaser · 03-11-2009, 08:20 PM

My wife makes me write HABANOS on the chaulk board when I'm bad
Thanks for the question and the great responses

theonlybear4CORT · 03-11-2009, 09:11 PM

This is how I felt after reading all the posts

Lots of good info by the way.

Fumador · 03-12-2009, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonic_mike

This is how I felt after reading all the posts

Lots of good info by the way.

Is this scene from a Star Trek movie? It is hilarious.

theonlybear4CORT · 03-12-2009, 10:21 PM

I don't really know i just saw it one day and saved it just for this occasion.

alley00p · 03-12-2009, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala

I'll bring the Habanos.

So, what exactly are you bringing, Scott?

Cuban Nationals to bait your hooks and clean your catch?

Or something tasty to smoke?

Now I'm really confused!!!

03-12-2009, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alley00p

So, what exactly are you bringing, Scott?

Cuban Nationals to bait your hooks and clean your catch?

Or something tasty to smoke?

Now I'm really confused!!!

maybe he's using cuban nationals to smoke and plans on fishing with cigars!

good thread though. for reals.

shilala · 03-13-2009, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alley00p

So, what exactly are you bringing, Scott?

Cuban Nationals to bait your hooks and clean your catch?

Or something tasty to smoke?

Now I'm really confused!!!

You'll have to go fishin' with us and find out.

03-13-2009, 03:51 PM

I'm with shiala its been my understanding that Habano on a NC refers to the reddish color Cuban seed wrapper. But that's just me.

03-11-2009, 10:55 AM	#1
TripleF 11/11/11 EPIC IV Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 5,626 Trading: (176)	Question about term - HABANOS I frequently see the word HABANO used on NC (non-cuban) cigars: Pinar Del Rio Habano Sun Grown Perdomo Habano Padilla Habano Cusano LXI Habano Sun Grown and on and on and on and on.... The thing that throws me for a loop is that HABANOS generally refers to cc (cuban cigars).... A guy started a HABANO pass thread and I thought he was referring to the above HABANO's not HABANA's. I was wrong. Why do we never see the word HABANO used on a cc label, always HABANA. Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang, now I think I'm more confused... Looking forward to the answer, because I am HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE Habano fan!!! __________________ Cool Cigar Shirts, Stickers & More

03-11-2009, 11:01 AM	#2
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Question about term - HABANOS Habana=Havana=City Habanos is most commonly associated with LCDH La Case De Habanos the official store for Habanos, S.A. the worldwide distributor of Cuban Cigars.

03-11-2009, 11:05 AM	#3
croatan Missing Peter Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: James Location: la Vuelta Abajo Posts: 3,727 Trading: (6)	Re: Question about term - HABANOS Ciudad de la Habana is the city (Havana). Habano means something from Habana. Habana (as opposed to Habano) is typically on the label of a Cuban cigar for the same reason Nicaragua, as opposed to Nicaraguan, would be on the label of a cigar from that country. I believe that non-Cuban cigar companies use the term to denote Cuban-seed tobacco, a cigar supposedly in the style of a Cuban cigar, or just for marketing reasons. __________________ Fumo ergo sum.

03-11-2009, 11:06 AM	#4
DPD6030 Shepard of the sheeple Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Mitten Posts: 7,166 Trading: (151)	Re: Question about term - HABANOS Good question Scott.

03-11-2009, 11:06 AM	#5
Mr.Maduro In Domino Confido Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Patrick Location: La Casa del Blueface Posts: 2,902 Trading: (83)	Re: Question about term - HABANOS http://translate.google.com/translat...US277%26sa%3DX __________________ "Patrick...You low-rent f#@k!!!" - MACMS (Shack V)

03-11-2009, 11:30 AM	#6
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Question about term - HABANOS Hey Scoot, this is some info on Habano wrappers. If you haven't tried a Padilla Habano yet, get up on it. They're awesome. "In the non-Cuban cigar industry, the wrapper shade scale is expanded to include shades such as Candela (vegetal green) and Oscuro (black). “Habano wrapper/shade” is used in the non-Cuban industry to describe cigars that are Colorado or Colorado Maduro. “Habano wrapper” may also refer to cigars that are produced with “Cuban seed” tobacco; meaning that the tobacco in the cigar is not genuine Cuban tobacco but tobacco derived from original Cuban tobacco seeds but grown elsewhere such as the Dominican Republic or North America." To make matters even more confusing, if you live in Havana, you are a Habano. Just like if you live in Florida you are a Floridian. Add to that, habano just means "cigar" in Spanish. I saw that thread where you got confused, and I can easily see why you did, because a "Habano Pass" means you would be passing Cubans who live in Havana. Unless you're a spanish speaking individual, in which case it'd be a Habano Pase, rather than a Habano Pass. If I had read it and I hadn't guessed they wanted to pass cc's, I'd have thought it was an all Habano wrapper pass when I saw the thread title, and I'd have gotten in. Then we'd both be in the same knucklehead boat. Since we're there, we might as well go fishin'. Whatta ya say? __________________

03-11-2009, 11:44 AM	#7
TripleF 11/11/11 EPIC IV Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 5,626 Trading: (176)	Re: Question about term - HABANOS [quote=shilala;282360]Hey Scoot, this is some info on Habano wrappers. If you haven't tried a Padilla Habano yet, get up on it. They're awesome. "In the non-Cuban cigar industry, the wrapper shade scale is expanded to include shades such as Candela (vegetal green) and Oscuro (black). “Habano wrapper/shade” is used in the non-Cuban industry to describe cigars that are Colorado or Colorado Maduro. “Habano wrapper” may also refer to cigars that are produced with “Cuban seed” tobacco; meaning that the tobacco in the cigar is not genuine Cuban tobacco but tobacco derived from original Cuban tobacco seeds but grown elsewhere such as the Dominican Republic or North America." To make matters even more confusing, if you live in Havana, you are a Habano. Just like if you live in Florida you are a Floridian. Add to that, habano just means "cigar" in Spanish. I saw that thread where you got confused, and I can easily see why you did, because a "Habano Pass" means you would be passing Cubans who live in Havana. Unless you're a spanish speaking individual, in which case it'd be a Habano Pase, rather than a Habano Pass. If I had read it and I hadn't guessed they wanted to pass cc's, I'd have thought it was an all Habano wrapper pass when I saw the thread title, and I'd have gotten in. Then we'd both be in the same knucklehead boat. *Since we're there, we might as well go fishin'. Whatta ya say?[/*QUOTE] Mights well. __________________ Cool Cigar Shirts, Stickers & More

03-11-2009, 11:48 AM	#8
mrreindeer Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question about term - HABANOS Great thread & great responses; this was killing me too.

03-11-2009, 06:23 PM	#10
MarkinAZ Formerly MarkinOR Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Sun City West, AZ Posts: 6,220 Trading: (40)	Re: Question about term - HABANOS My heads spinning. I gotta get out of this thread __________________ "Don't worry, God will work out His plan for your life..." Psalm 138 8

03-11-2009, 08:08 PM	#11
ucla695 Neither here, nor there Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Pool Posts: 3,696 Trading: (5)	Re: Question about term - HABANOS Good info here. I always thought it was a marketing scheme and haven't really paid attention to it.

03-11-2009, 08:20 PM	#13
Sailchaser Black Ops-SOB Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Chris Location: SCS,MI(Somewere Cigar Smoking) Posts: 1,733 Trading: (7)	Re: Question about term - HABANOS My wife makes me write HABANOS on the chaulk board when I'm bad Thanks for the question and the great responses __________________ "Sail Fast, Shoot Straight, Fish Hard and Save Time For The Important Things In Life"

03-11-2009, 09:11 PM	#14
theonlybear4CORT RIP Nick Montano Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: Santa Rosa Posts: 2,040 Trading: (14)	Re: Question about term - HABANOS This is how I felt after reading all the posts Lots of good info by the way.

03-12-2009, 10:21 PM	#16
theonlybear4CORT RIP Nick Montano Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: Santa Rosa Posts: 2,040 Trading: (14)	Re: Question about term - HABANOS I don't really know i just saw it one day and saved it just for this occasion.

03-13-2009, 03:51 PM	#20
Legend Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question about term - HABANOS I'm with shiala its been my understanding that Habano on a NC refers to the reddish color Cuban seed wrapper. But that's just me.