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Old 03-04-2009, 10:00 PM   #1
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In the above example, it is equally likely that you would draw a 4 and the dealer an 8, making you the "lucky" hero. (In no way to discredit Chippewa's or anyone's playing style, just my take)
I feel the exact same way. Probability wise, you would have just as good as a chance to help me as you would to hurt me. Of course you would be no doubt hurting yourself (in the long run) but you can do whatever you want with your money!

As for how to play, yes, play basic strategy. "The book" I read has no either/or scenarios. Over the course of thousands and thousands of hands, one play is better than another. For example, in chippewa's example, my "book" says to always hit a 12 against a dealers 2 or 3. There is no either/or. Some people play that differently, but I'm playing it that way EVERY TIME.

IMO the most important thing to do when playing, aside from hitting when you're suppose to and staying when you're suppose to, is to double down and split when you are suppose to. When you have the opportunity to increase your wager with the additional information provided ( knowing your cards and one of the dealers), you must maximize your opportunity. If I have 9 and the dealer is showing a 6, I double down. If I didn't I'd be minimizing my percentage chance of winning.

Oh, and NEVER take insurance. It really is a sucker's bet.

And one more thing, if you count cards (well) all these rules are out the window as your play would change. And don't get caught!

Good luck!
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Old 03-04-2009, 10:06 PM   #2
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IMO the most important thing to do when playing, aside from hitting when you're suppose to and staying when you're suppose to, is to double down and split when you are suppose to. When you have the opportunity to increase your wager with the additional information provided ( knowing your cards and one of the dealers), you must maximize your opportunity. If I have 9 and the dealer is showing a 6, I double down. If I didn't I'd be minimizing my percentage chance of winning.

Oh, and NEVER take insurance. It really is a sucker's bet.

And one more thing, if you count cards (well) all these rules are out the window as your play would change. And don't get caught!

Good luck!
Doubles and splits are a great way to increase your bets without drawing attention.

Counting cards is absolutely great, but as I mentioned earlier about the novels and movies, everyone thinks they can play that game now (though I haven't been to Vegas). Getting caught will land you in no hot water initially, but you will be banned from the casino for life. If you're not good and you don't have the bankroll, it is simply not worth it. And yes, basic goes out the window when you have an accurate count, but understanding the principals behind basic are valuable, even if you are a member of "Mr M's illustrious MIT blackjack team".

Play basic, and pray that the "law of small numbers" is in your favor. Good "luck"
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Old 03-04-2009, 10:15 PM   #3
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Ran a blackjack game nearly every afternoon after class for four years in college. Even though it was just nickels, dimes and quarters, it more than financed all of my spending and party money. In other words, I was the house. Since Vegas won't let you be the house, I would find a different game.
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Ran a blackjack game nearly every afternoon after class for four years in college. Even though it was just nickels, dimes and quarters, it more than financed all of my spending and party money. In other words, I was the house. Since Vegas won't let you be the house, I would find a different game.


Yeah, house is the place to be.

But if you're looking to make the house work for its money....blackjack and craps is where you want to be.
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All great advice. How do you go from using the card to knowing it. Any tips on that? Also, what is the appropriate bankroll to bring to a $5 table?
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All great advice. How do you go from using the card to knowing it. Any tips on that? Also, what is the appropriate bankroll to bring to a $5 table?
To answer your first question: practice practice practice. Watch other players too. After awhile you'll spot the players that are using basic strategy, and the more you see it the faster you will learn it. As far as bankroll goes thats pretty much up to you. I usually sit down with $100 at a 5 dollar table. If you are counting cards I suggest you sit down with at least 100 times the minimum bet to account for big swings you are inevitably going to have. Most of all just have fun. Unless this is going to be your job its all about having fun.
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To answer your first question: practice practice practice. Watch other players too. After awhile you'll spot the players that are using basic strategy, and the more you see it the faster you will learn it. As far as bankroll goes thats pretty much up to you. I usually sit down with $100 at a 5 dollar table. If you are counting cards I suggest you sit down with at least 100 times the minimum bet to account for big swings you are inevitably going to have. Most of all just have fun. Unless this is going to be your job its all about having fun.
Sound advice.

Your bankroll should equal the amount of money you are willing to sacrifice for the amount of time you plan on playing. You WILL NOT make money. Well before you start making money, you will know what your bankroll should be.

Again, you will not make money. You'll win some, you'll lose some, but when you average it out over the long haul, you will lose (by playing basic or worse).

Have fun, and play to have fun. Most guys who lose their asses decide to start playing for profit at your level. Its entertainment and leave it at that.
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Old 03-06-2009, 07:46 PM   #8
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My advice is to forget playing against the house. Play poker. There is a lot of suckers that play a monthly home game in Vegas. You can sit at a 1/2 table for 5 hours on $100 and have a heck of a lot better chance of coming out a winner than playing against a known disadvantage.

But if you want to play against the house. Get a hint card and use it. You can just leave it on the table as a reference. The casinos are OK with this as it gives them a 1.5% advantage.
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