I am a cigar aficianado!

[Genetic Defect]

Originally Posted by TheRiddick

Give the guy a break. In general, Dominicans ARE mild with just a few exceptions. LFD and LGC are about it, IMO, and even they use non-Dominican tobacco to bump up the body. Opus, etc, are a medium, at best, to my palate, so the guy is not that much off in his beliefs that Dominican PUROS are mild, they are.

Although I cringed when he stated there are only 3 kinds of cigars and then proceeded to clip about half an inch of a stick (no doubt affecting the draw a lot in the process), for a beginner watching the video its a good starting point (clip, light, enjoy). I think he only missed one essential point, though, he should have stated cigas are not to be inhaled (althogh I know people who do and enjoy it), but that's about it.

Before pointing fingers at this guy, look at this board and others, I also cringe every time I see a tasting note that starts with a lengthy discourse on which cutter was used (I used my Palio, Xikar, whatever...) or which lighter (my super duper 3 flame torch...). Some with picture of the (expensive) accessories attached. Who the hell cares and just how do those accessories AFFECT the taste/flavor of a cigar being reviewed? There are plenty of beginners on this board, yet I do not see anyone make any fuss when they post or poke fun at their "newbieness".

Do you see restaurant reviews that go into detail about whether a 2 tine or 3 tine fork was used (to supposedly enhance the flavor)? Or plate the food came on, round or square? Anyone see a car review state what kind of shoes the reviewer wore to test the car? Glass being used when reviewing wine? The last example may be a bit off since I do know a good number of wine geeks also trying to bamboozle with their fancy decaners, glasses and bottle openers, but I hope you get my point.

Let's be civil for a change.

here is a review of Plates
http://www.gayot.com/restaurants/pla...4we050501.html

[TheRiddick]

Originally Posted by Big Vito

here is a review of Plates
http://www.gayot.com/restaurants/pla...4we050501.html

HUH!?

Where in the review do you see mention of plates? Not sure if you're simply trying to mock me, but I'd hope you understood what's mentioned in the review you pointed to, they are not plates for FOOD, they are decorative plates adorning the WALLS.

Are you saying that using a fancy 18 jet turbo driven time delay titanium alloy cigar lighter (prominently displayed in an attached photo right next to the gold and diamond Rolex, which just happens to be there, you know, for good measure when smoking a cigar) instead of a match the guy used in the video, or a diamond and emerald encrusted platinum chain saw hand signed by the entire Makita factory crew and (also prominently displayed in an attached photo, right next to the gold Cartier pen at the ready, presumably for taking notes, I guess short term memory is greatly overrated) to cut the cigar as opposed to a utilitarian cutter the guy used in the video enhances the nose and flavor of a cigar? How so?

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by TheRiddick

fancy 18 jet turbo driven time delay titanium alloy cigar lighter

Ooh, I want one!!

[Genetic Defect]

The name is plates

Originally Posted by TheRiddick

HUH!?

Where in the review do you see mention of plates? Not sure if you're simply trying to mock me, but I'd hope you understood what's mentioned in the review you pointed to, they are not plates for FOOD, they are decorative plates adorning the WALLS.

Are you saying that using a fancy 18 jet turbo driven time delay titanium alloy cigar lighter (prominently displayed in an attached photo right next to the gold and diamond Rolex, which just happens to be there, you know, for good measure when smoking a cigar) instead of a match the guy used in the video, or a diamond and emerald encrusted platinum chain saw hand signed by the entire Makita factory crew and (also prominently displayed in an attached photo, right next to the gold Cartier pen at the ready, presumably for taking notes, I guess short term memory is greatly overrated) to cut the cigar as opposed to a utilitarian cutter the guy used in the video enhances the nose and flavor of a cigar? How so?

[Da Klugs]

Originally Posted by TheRiddick

Let's be civil for a change.

We are very civil. Doesn't mean we all agree on everything and for the most part stuff is done with tongue firmly planted in cheek around here.

I'm the one who found the video and thought it was funny enough to post. Not a shot at the "dad" in the video just funny in it's presentation.. cigar description, wind, matches, cut, etc. They have a number of these out there and I think they are produced with a bit of tongue in cheek which is cool. Note the intro where the video is made possible by a grant from a pawn shop. Pretty sure they weren't taking this all to seriously.

It has value to beginners I agree. Let's review:

1. Three types of cigars (plus one) all accurate if not fully inclusive. Hope no one calls out a vendor for selling fake Nicaraguans though.
2. Cutting - many beginners may have experienced difficult draws without realizing that the head of the cigar must be cut, and in that a service is performed for may highlighting the need to do so. In the presentation it seemed of similar value to the signs in the mens room, "Don't eat the big white mints".
3. Lighting - matches or lighters work equally well. As demonstrated, the matches have the added benefit of "flavoring" the cigar if you light quickly while the combustibles on the tip are still flaming.
4. Eco friendly theme in keeping with the politically clean times.
5. Creates a whole generation of "snipe hunters" in regards to a quest for "petite robustos" and who doesn't enjoy a good snipe hunt?

Regarding bling and cigars there is a point to folks comments and it's not gazillion dollar accessories. The value of participating in these on-line communities is the wealth of information shared through mutual experience. We are collectively, through interaction here, an ongoing and never ending course in "being a cigar aficionado". Our tools of choice are vetted.. things like $ 40 blazer lighters or $ 6 knock off torches that work in the wind and time after time after refilling. Things like $ 35 Palio cutters or $ 2 Havana cutters that will precisely cut almost any cigar without incident. Our storage devices like coolers for keeping cigars without breaking the budget are the antithesis of bling. The complete toolkit for cutting, lighting and properly storing is $ 100-$200 for most here. Not exactly Robb report qualified.

All in all we are pretty anti-bling but ... collectively informed and we tolerate fools well... as demonstrated by our ability to get along so well with each other.

[CBI_2]

Originally Posted by Da Klugs

We are very civil. Doesn't mean we all agree on everything and for the most part stuff is done with tongue firmly planted in cheek around here.

I'm the one who found the video and thought it was funny enough to post. Not a shot at the "dad" in the video just funny in it's presentation.. cigar description, wind, matches, cut, etc. They have a number of these out there and I think they are produced with a bit of tongue in cheek which is cool. Note the intro where the video is made possible by a grant from a pawn shop. Pretty sure they weren't taking this all to seriously.

It has value to beginners I agree. Let's review:

1. Three types of cigars (plus one) all accurate if not fully inclusive. Hope no one calls out a vendor for selling fake Nicaraguans though.
2. Cutting - many beginners may have experienced difficult draws without realizing that the head of the cigar must be cut, and in that a service is performed for may highlighting the need to do so. In the presentation it seemed of similar value to the signs in the mens room, "Don't eat the big white mints".
3. Lighting - matches or lighters work equally well. As demonstrated, the matches have the added benefit of "flavoring" the cigar if you light quickly while the combustibles on the tip are still flaming.
4. Eco friendly theme in keeping with the politically clean times.
5. Creates a whole generation of "snipe hunters" in regards to a quest for "petite robustos" and who doesn't enjoy a good snipe hunt?

Regarding bling and cigars there is a point to folks comments and it's not gazillion dollar accessories. The value of participating in these on-line communities is the wealth of information shared through mutual experience. We are collectively, through interaction here, an ongoing and never ending course in "being a cigar aficionado". Our tools of choice are vetted.. things like $ 40 blazer lighters or $ 6 knock off torches that work in the wind and time after time after refilling. Things like $ 35 Palio cutters or $ 2 Havana cutters that will precisely cut almost any cigar without incident. Our storage devices like coolers for keeping cigars without breaking the budget are the antithesis of bling. The complete toolkit for cutting, lighting and properly storing is $ 100-$200 for most here. Not exactly Robb report qualified.

All in all we are pretty anti-bling but ... collectively informed and we tolerate fools well... as demonstrated by our ability to get along so well with each other.

And I mean Stupid in the most civil way possible.