Montecristo #2 - fake? :(

macsauce13 · 07-08-2016, 08:20 AM

I think the most telling might be the variation in color, IF they came from the same box. I've never seen that much color differentiation in one box.

Doctorossi · 07-08-2016, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by macsauce13

I think the most telling might be the variation in color, IF they came from the same box. I've never seen that much color differentiation in one box.

I agree. The tooth and texture of the wrappers looks like Vuelta Abajo leaf, so these may be of 'under the table' manufacture (ie. counterfeits made with Cuban tobacco), but they don't meet Habanos production visual aesthetic standards. In practice, the genuine article doesn't always meet its own standard, but it usually does (and these sticks are pretty far off).

Ashcan Bill · 07-08-2016, 11:44 AM

I agree with what everyone else said.

I used to work with a guy in the Valley that bought "Cubans" from a local shop. They were fake as hell but I never wasted my time telling him or explaining why. He was too proud of them and wouldn't have believed me anyway.

The point is there are fakes all over the place and shops do sell them under the table. Either they don't know themselves or more likely, know their customers won't know the difference.

Those that you posted appear to have seriously funky wrappers, even for fakes.

nydreamery · 07-12-2016, 10:12 PM

Thanks everyone.....the wrapper fell off and it definitely was not a real monte. I have every intention of going back to that shop and letting the owner know. I can't really blame him....he's not a cigar smoker and he probably doesn't know it wasn't real. Lesson learned. Will not buy a "Cuban" from a b&m again. Trusted sources only!

mosesbotbol · 07-13-2016, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by nydreamery

I can't really blame him....he's not a cigar smoker and he probably doesn't know it wasn't real. Lesson learned. Will not buy a "Cuban" from a b&m again. Trusted sources only!

Oh really...

He is a merchant selling you an item. It his responsibility to represent it (or not). He alone is 100% to blame. To sell you something illegal and commit fraud is a one-two punch. The shop is pretty shady and not worth any consideration IMO.

07-08-2016, 08:20 AM	#1
macsauce13 Have My Own Room Join Date: Mar 2010 First Name: McKenzie Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 1,107 Trading: (38)	Re: Montecristo #2 - fake? :( I think the most telling might be the variation in color, IF they came from the same box. I've never seen that much color differentiation in one box.

07-08-2016, 11:44 AM	#3
Ashcan Bill Ol' Dude Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Bill Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 1,903 Trading: (6)	Re: Montecristo #2 - fake? :( I agree with what everyone else said. I used to work with a guy in the Valley that bought "Cubans" from a local shop. They were fake as hell but I never wasted my time telling him or explaining why. He was too proud of them and wouldn't have believed me anyway. The point is there are fakes all over the place and shops do sell them under the table. Either they don't know themselves or more likely, know their customers won't know the difference. Those that you posted appear to have seriously funky wrappers, even for fakes.

07-12-2016, 10:12 PM	#4
nydreamery Just in from the Storm Join Date: Mar 2016 First Name: Suzie Location: Chatsworth, CA Posts: 2 Trading: (0)	Re: Montecristo #2 - fake? :( Thanks everyone.....the wrapper fell off and it definitely was not a real monte. I have every intention of going back to that shop and letting the owner know. I can't really blame him....he's not a cigar smoker and he probably doesn't know it wasn't real. Lesson learned. Will not buy a "Cuban" from a b&m again. Trusted sources only!