Cuba relations thawing

[Ashcan Bill]

I suspect this is the beginning of the end to the embargo. I think by the time the next president takes office, it'll be completely ended.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by Ashcan Bill

I suspect this is the beginning of the end to the embargo. I think by the time the next president takes office, it'll be completely ended.

Congress has a lot to say about that, and from all I've read, it won't be an easy fight.

[Ashcan Bill]

Originally Posted by icehog3

Congress has a lot to say about that, and from all I've read, it won't be an easy fight.

Very true. But the new Congress will be extremely business friendly, and business stands to profit the most from the lifting of the embargo. I give it two years at the outside.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by Ashcan Bill

Very true. But the new Congress will be extremely business friendly, and business stands to profit the most from the lifting of the embargo. I give it two years at the outside.

Hmmmm....I will put up 5 Padrons to your 5 Habanos that it's not completely lifted by Dec. 17, 2016. I'm not sure, but I think I have a decent chance to win that bet.

[Ashcan Bill]

Originally Posted by icehog3

Hmmmm....I will put up 5 Padrons to your 5 Habanos that it's not completely lifted by Dec. 17, 2016. I'm not sure, but I think I have a decent chance to win that bet.

As long as you aren't betting Gurkhas, I'll accept your gentlemanly wager. After all, I have K Street on my side.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

Funny, I was talking to the Singapore Habanos distributor the other night and he has much respect for NC's and for the obvious reasons; quality of the aged tobacco and consistent construction. Habanos smokers put up with a lot quality issues that are near non-existent on NC's. I am leaving the flavor differences out of the equation; those are personal preferences.

Line up 500 cigars; both Habanos and good NC's. How many NC's will be plugged vs. Habanos?

Moses, I did an experiemnt on another public forum last year. Numerous people logged all their cigars for the year, NC and CC. Good draw, tight draw, plugged draw. I store my cigars around 61-62% RH. For well over 500 Cuban cigars I smoked in 2013, I had 3 plugs. While that was worse than the NCs (0 plugged), it still ain't bad.

Originally Posted by Ashcan Bill

As long as you aren't betting Gurkhas, I'll accept your gentlemanly wager. After all, I have K Street on my side.

Nice. Obviously I will pay you off before 12/17/16 if you are right....

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by Ashcan Bill

I suspect this is the beginning of the end to the embargo. I think by the time the next president takes office, it'll be completely ended.

Originally Posted by icehog3

Congress has a lot to say about that, and from all I've read, it won't be an easy fight.

Originally Posted by Ashcan Bill

Very true. But the new Congress will be extremely business friendly, and business stands to profit the most from the lifting of the embargo. I give it two years at the outside.

Originally Posted by icehog3

Hmmmm....I will put up 5 Padrons to your 5 Habanos that it's not completely lifted by Dec. 17, 2016. I'm not sure, but I think I have a decent chance to win that bet.

Originally Posted by Ashcan Bill

As long as you aren't betting Gurkhas, I'll accept your gentlemanly wager. After all, I have K Street on my side.

And exactly two years TO THE DAY from this "wager", an awesome fiver of CCs shows up at my door. I had no idea what they were for until Bill reminded me of this. A man of integrity, with great taste in cigars! Thank you, Bill, you are a gentleman and great BOTL.

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by icehog3

Thank you, Bill, you are a gentleman and great BOTL.

I've met Bill. And herfed with him on multiple occasions.
I couldn't agree more, Tom.