Cuba relations thawing - Page 2

T.G · 12-17-2014, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteMamba

I'm not sure that their would be any use for fauxhibas any more if they become legal. If the embargo is lifted wouldn't it just make Cuba another region like the DR and Nicaragua already are? They may be an initial influx to see what all the fuss is about but once that is over with and everyone tastes young CC's they won't want them any more.

The forbidden fruit will no longer be forbidden and they will lose their appeal to a lot of smokers.

iPhones are perfectly legal, yet you can buy counterfeits in just about every electronics shop in Hong Kong.

Ever seen a booze rack at the store in Mexico? They even counterfeit their own tequila.

Just because something is legal doesn't mean the people will be smart enough to realize that the bargain they are getting is because what they are buying is not authentic. People will buy what is cheap, and they'll do it more freely since there would be no repercussions.

pnoon · 12-17-2014, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G

iPhones are perfectly legal, yet you can buy counterfeits in just about every electronics shop in Hong Kong.

Ever seen a booze rack at the store in Mexico? They even counterfeit their own tequila.

Just because something is legal doesn't mean the people will be smart enough to realize that the bargain they are getting is because what they are buying is not authentic. People will buy what is cheap, and they'll do it more freely since there would be no repercussions.

Hey Adam, Wanna buy a Rolex?

T.G · 12-17-2014, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pnoon

Hey Adam, Wanna buy a Rolex?

AdamJoshua · 12-17-2014, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G

Oh thought he was talking to me, I already have a Rolox and a Movodo!

markem · 12-17-2014, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G

People will buy what is cheap, and they'll do it more freely since there would be no repercussions.

jjirons69 · 12-17-2014, 01:56 PM

I'm with Carlos...wait and see.

kydsid · 12-17-2014, 02:01 PM

As if any of us can do anything but wait and see what happens. Plus the door is only cracked, it won't be bad until commercial sale is authorized and that'll take Congress. I'll wager the first thing to happen is someone being arrested by ICE for reselling their $100 allotment.

Remo · 12-17-2014, 02:37 PM

CA group trip to Cuba?…Epic!

AdamJoshua · 12-17-2014, 03:18 PM

"Oh I'm sure it's Cuban, the guy at the cigar place is the friend of a friend and he got it from a drawer hidden under the counter."

12-17-2014, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AdamJoshua

"Oh I'm sure it's Cuban, the guy at the cigar place is the friend of a friend and he got it from a drawer hidden under the counter."

I saw exactly this just last Sunday at a local B&M! Too funny!

Solafide · 12-17-2014, 03:34 PM

LoL I just heard on the news.. and the first reaction and self centered thought I instinctively had was CIGARS.

Tio Gato · 12-17-2014, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Solafide

LoL I just heard on the news.. and the first reaction and self centered thought I instinctively had was CIGARS.

I thought of Cuban women.

bobarian · 12-17-2014, 03:49 PM

Not too concerned about cigars either way, but I have two words for you.
Legendario Elixir!

markem · 12-17-2014, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bobarian

Legendario Elixir!

Fine if you bring it back, but if it is imported, expect the California prices to, well, make a trip to Cuba to buy it seem affordable.

WhiteMamba · 12-17-2014, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tio Gato

I thought of Cuban women.

you better make sure they're not fake

12-17-2014, 04:19 PM

About damn time!

mosesbotbol · 12-17-2014, 04:47 PM

President needs a win to go on his legacy beyond killing Bin Laden. This is a good move as it will polarize many GOP candidates unless they join the band wagon.

Rubio does not stand a chance as becoming president right now.

Many Americans don't understand the whole embargo at this point and I am glad to see this moving forward, but some skepticism is inevitable when the government does anything.

Drphilwv · 12-17-2014, 05:18 PM

I've had some Cuban rum while traveling. It was quite nice. I'm excited about the prospect of a nice box of CC being shipped to my mailbox with a half case of Havana Club

JohnRogers · 12-17-2014, 05:19 PM

The embargo has been obvious failure. The USA has a policy of changing China through engagement, yeah I kind of just rolled my eyes. Perhaps real change to Cuba can come from engagement. Raul Castro seems to hint he is open to change in Cuba. As we get excited about cigars we shouldn't forget Cuba is run by a brutal regime.

Does anybody know if human rights under Raul has been vastly improved?

Blueface · 12-17-2014, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnRogers

Does anybody know if human rights under Raul has been vastly improved?

Yup.
In five years, Alan Gross lost 100 pounds and a number of teeth, along with partial eyesight, in spite of their fantastic medical system (as I chuckle in sarcasm).
Yup.
Improved tremendously.
Here is before and after.

12-17-2014, 01:56 PM	#6
jjirons69 Haberdasher Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jamie Location: Chucktown, SC Posts: 4,120 Trading: (94)	Re: Cuba relations thawing I'm with Carlos...wait and see. __________________ Somebody has to go back and get a chitload of dimes

12-17-2014, 02:01 PM	#7
kydsid Ditat Deus Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Jason Location: Among the Pines Posts: 2,361 Trading: (46)	Re: Cuba relations thawing As if any of us can do anything but wait and see what happens. Plus the door is only cracked, it won't be bad until commercial sale is authorized and that'll take Congress. I'll wager the first thing to happen is someone being arrested by ICE for reselling their $100 allotment. __________________ Check out the Cigar Asylum Newbie Sampler Trade

12-17-2014, 02:37 PM	#8
Remo C.I.A Join Date: Feb 2011 First Name: Mike Location: Palm Harbor, Florida Posts: 12,597 Trading: (122)	Re: Cuba relations thawing CA group trip to Cuba?…Epic! __________________

12-17-2014, 03:18 PM	#9
AdamJoshua Article 4 Free Inhabitant Join Date: Jan 2013 First Name: The Other Adam Location: Satellite Beach Posts: 14,787 Trading: (40)	Re: Cuba relations thawing "Oh I'm sure it's Cuban, the guy at the cigar place is the friend of a friend and he got it from a drawer hidden under the counter."

12-17-2014, 03:34 PM	#11
Solafide Just in from the Storm Join Date: Aug 2014 First Name: Dustin Location: East Coast, USA Posts: 10 Trading: (0)	Re: Cuba relations thawing LoL I just heard on the news.. and the first reaction and self centered thought I instinctively had was CIGARS.

12-17-2014, 03:49 PM	#13
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Cuba relations thawing Not too concerned about cigars either way, but I have two words for you. Legendario Elixir!

12-17-2014, 04:19 PM	#16
TNT009 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Cuba relations thawing About damn time!

12-17-2014, 04:47 PM	#17
mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: Cuba relations thawing President needs a win to go on his legacy beyond killing Bin Laden. This is a good move as it will polarize many GOP candidates unless they join the band wagon. Rubio does not stand a chance as becoming president right now. Many Americans don't understand the whole embargo at this point and I am glad to see this moving forward, but some skepticism is inevitable when the government does anything. __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's

12-17-2014, 05:18 PM	#18
Drphilwv Just in from the Storm Join Date: Jun 2013 First Name: Phil Location: West Virginia Posts: 28 Trading: (1)	Re: Cuba relations thawing I've had some Cuban rum while traveling. It was quite nice. I'm excited about the prospect of a nice box of CC being shipped to my mailbox with a half case of Havana Club

12-17-2014, 05:19 PM	#19
JohnRogers I Still Ash On My Self Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: John Location: Enid Oklahoma Posts: 214 Trading: (0)	Re: Cuba relations thawing The embargo has been obvious failure. The USA has a policy of changing China through engagement, yeah I kind of just rolled my eyes. Perhaps real change to Cuba can come from engagement. Raul Castro seems to hint he is open to change in Cuba. As we get excited about cigars we shouldn't forget Cuba is run by a brutal regime. Does anybody know if human rights under Raul has been vastly improved? __________________ Boy before the mirror checks his camouflage polishes his armor and the Charger in the garage. www.enidcigar.com