Wrapper issues

[pnoon]

What was the humidity and temp of the environment you were smoking in?

[Dude Here]

Originally Posted by pnoon

What was the humidity and temp of the environment you were smoking in?

This.

I've had perfectly (to my standards anyway) kept sticks do this when I took them out of the humidor and air conditioned house and out into a humid, warm Texas night. Kinda odd that it's only been DE sticks doing that to you though.

[longknocker]

Happens To Me Frequently When Smoking Outside In The Heat & Greater Than 75% Humidity In Alabama In The Summer. Not Much You Can Do When Smoking Outside.

[T.G]

Originally Posted by Dude Here

This.

I've had perfectly (to my standards anyway) kept sticks do this when I took them out of the humidor and air conditioned house and out into a humid, warm Texas night. Kinda odd that it's only been DE sticks doing that to you though.

Not entirely. The capa leaves are different between the MUWAT and the LAdC Mi Amor, and are going to behave differently when subjected to stresses like the expanding of the filler. The bunching technique between the two factories is very likely a bit different (DE has a unique bunching technique which JdN has since adopted), which could lead to different amount of expansion when subjected to the same circumstances.

The fact that both cigars had the same failure at almost the same time definitely leans toward environmental conditions being the cause.

[Dude Here]

Originally Posted by T.G

Not entirely. The capa leaves are different between the MUWAT and the LAdC Mi Amor, and are going to behave differently when subjected to stresses like the expanding of the filler. The bunching technique between the two factories is very likely a bit different (DE has a unique bunching technique which JdN has since adopted), which could lead to different amount of expansion when subjected to the same circumstances.

The fact that both cigars had the same failure at almost the same time definitely leans toward environmental conditions being the cause.

All good points. I hadn't considered the bunching and rolling techniques being a factor as well.

[RWhisenand]

From what you described, I've had that happen once, ironically it was with an Undercrown. Kinda turned me off on them.

Originally Posted by pnoon

What was the humidity and temp of the environment you were smoking in?

Excellent question...

Hot & Humid central Florida. Only other issues with cigar performance experienced is that a Camacho TM, Alec Bradley American Classic, 601 Green and Undercrown have begun with open draw and after being in the high humidity, had the draw constrict quite a bit. No previous issue with wrapper issues. No other issues with either problem. I often have a cigar outside with some kind of good beverage.
Had previously thought that wrapper coming off was due to overly dry cigars.
I admit that I am not well informed on this.
Appreciate the replies. Great info here!
RR