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Old 03-16-2014, 01:20 PM   #1
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Been using the dreaded KL for 10 months now in my 18 bottle wineador, holding around 375 to 400 sticks and here's the results I've seen:

First off, KL is not as stable as 'real' beads. That said, they aren't terrible, just more work for a little less $$$.
If / when the power surges, the wineador temperature is programmed to reset to lowest temp, which is 54. When the temp is returned to 66, the humidity rises from 67 where I prefer it to 72-73. The fix is to replace the old KL with fresh, no water added. Humidity returns and stabilizes to 67 in about 3-4 days. Simply dry the old KL and it is good to re-use.
Over a period of 3-4 months, the humidity slowly climbs to 70+. Fix is same as outlined above. I
I live in hot, humid Central, FL and that is a factor in keeping the humidity down. Even through most of winter, the ambient humidity both outside and inside the house, is higher than what is desired in the wineador. That's the reason, along with a desire to prevent beetle infestation is why I went with a wineador.

KL has been a good experiment, but I will be moving to a bead system in my search for a rock solid, stable humidification in the cigar cave!

Conclusion is that KL is OK, but a bead system sounds to be better for a rock solid stable humidification source. I'll find out soon!

Note: no cats, kittens or other feline types were injured in the execution of this experiment, nor were they permitted to use said KL for the purpose of evacuation in any manner, as this may have had an unexpected impact upon the enjoyment of torching the cigars stored in the enclosed system, utilizing KL as a sole source of humidification control.

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If / when the power surges, the wineador temperature is programmed to reset to lowest temp, which is 54. When the temp is returned to 66, the humidity rises from 67 where I prefer it to 72-73. The fix is to replace the old KL with fresh, no water added. Humidity returns and stabilizes to 67 in about 3-4 days. Simply dry the old KL and it is good to re-use.
Over a period of 3-4 months, the humidity slowly climbs to 70+. Fix is same as outlined above.
Wow that's a full 10% over mine, really goes to show you everyone likes their cigars at a different humidity. Rock on!
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Wow that's a full 10% over mine, really goes to show you everyone likes their cigars at a different humidity. Rock on!
I think Rob meant that he prefers it at 67 and that, under certain conditions, can rise to 72-73. Unless you meant that you liked your cigars at 59-60 RH
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I think Rob meant that he prefers it at 67 and that, under certain conditions, can rise to 72-73. Unless you meant that you liked your cigars at 59-60 RH
That's how I read it, too.
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I think Rob meant that he prefers it at 67 and that, under certain conditions, can rise to 72-73. Unless you meant that you liked your cigars at 59-60 RH
You got it!

Another factor may be the relentlessly high humidity here in Florida. This winter, the humidity in the house was from 66% to over 80%. We rarely needed to run the heat and with the outside humidity being even higher, my issue is keeping the humidity down in the humidor and wineador. Surprisingly, KL has worked better than the el cheapo pucks in the cedar humi. Trying Boveda packs in there now. I'm looking to try the premium quality beads in the wineador to see if that is even more stable. Like I said before, KL is not terrible, but could be better. I like to try different experiments and move up in quality after seeing what's what. Done this with cutters, punches, humidors and KL. If I were smarter, I'd have saved a bundle just by going with better quality / known items in the first place!
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I think Rob meant that he prefers it at 67 and that, under certain conditions, can rise to 72-73. Unless you meant that you liked your cigars at 59-60 RH
You are absolutely right and my reading comprehension was **** last night.
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