Oldest aged cigars you have

[stearns]

I would suggest doing a google search for "cigar maturation cycles," there is a very expanded discussion of this concept in MRN's book, but there is some basic knowledge out there for free. there is little proven fact about this, but a whole lot of theory to get you thinking. without having tried the papas fritas being discussed myself, i would agree with Jack that they could be in their sick period. i'm curious as to how they taste in another 6 months.

[FUEL]

Originally Posted by stearns

I would suggest doing a google search for "cigar maturation cycles," there is a very expanded discussion of this concept in MRN's book, but there is some basic knowledge out there for free. there is little proven fact about this, but a whole lot of theory to get you thinking. without having tried the papas fritas being discussed myself, i would agree with Jack that they could be in their sick period. i'm curious as to how they taste in another 6 months.

Thank you for the info! I had a PM conversation with one of the guys and the way he put it is that at least on an informal level he will be re-valuating at 9 and 12 months respectively.

My one guess on the PF's is the fact that they are a mixed filler and perhaps with the smaller pieces of tobacco not rolled as tight time progresses the "maturation cycle."

[stearns]

Originally Posted by FUEL

My one guess on the PF's is the fact that they are a mixed filler and perhaps with the smaller pieces of tobacco not rolled as tight time progresses the "maturation cycle."

this is a very interesting idea. I'd love to hear some input from some of the many super-brainy folks here about if the aging process changes between long/mixed/short filler cigars.

[Blueface]

Originally Posted by stearns

this is a very interesting idea. I'd love to hear some input from some of the many super-brainy folks here about if the aging process changes between long/mixed/short filler cigars.

Can idiots chime in?

To answer your question, nope.
A 10 year old long filler aged just as much as a 10 year old mixed which aged just as much as a 10 year old short filler, as long as all three where made on the same day, at the same time, if to be considered the same age.

[mahtofire14]

00' HDM Churchill CC

[markem]

I dunno about aged. But the oldest un-aged cigars that I have are from the mid 80s.

[FUEL]

Originally Posted by stearns

this is a very interesting idea. I'd love to hear some input from some of the many super-brainy folks here about if the aging process changes between long/mixed/short filler cigars.

My thought process on this is that picture a hot summer day and you have a cooler of beverages and when done with your beverages you dump the cooler of ice cubs out into the hot driveway...that is short filler. Now picture you have a large solid blocks of ice you toss out in the driveway as well...there is your long filler.

The group of smaller ice cubes due to surface area and density are going to melt more quickly than a larger block with more surface area. So the long filler will "maturate" more slowly, in theory, than a short filler. Or one could say the short filler cigar has more edges that are exposed to the elements vs. a properly hand rolled long filler. How often do you see the middle of a stick, aka the filler, dry out first vs the wrapper.

My logic and 3 cents.

[Blueface]

Originally Posted by FUEL

My thought process on this is that picture a hot summer day and you have a cooler of beverages and when done with your beverages you dump the cooler of ice cubs out into the hot driveway...that is short filler. Now picture you have a large solid blocks of ice you toss out in the driveway as well...there is your long filler.

The group of smaller ice cubes due to surface area and density are going to melt more quickly than a larger block with more surface area. So the long filler will "maturate" more slowly, in theory, than a short filler. Or one could say the short filler cigar has more edges that are exposed to the elements vs. a properly hand rolled long filler. How often do you see the middle of a stick, aka the filler, dry out first vs the wrapper.

My logic and 3 cents.

Don't think so.

I just got a headache reading this.

[FUEL]

Originally Posted by Blueface

Don't think so.

I just got a headache reading this.

Lmao

[T.G]

Originally Posted by FUEL

My thought process on this is that picture a hot summer day and you have a cooler of beverages and when done with your beverages you dump the cooler of ice cubs out into the hot driveway...that is short filler. Now picture you have a large solid blocks of ice you toss out in the driveway as well...there is your long filler.

The group of smaller ice cubes due to surface area and density are going to melt more quickly than a larger block with more surface area. So the long filler will "maturate" more slowly, in theory, than a short filler. Or one could say the short filler cigar has more edges that are exposed to the elements vs. a properly hand rolled long filler. How often do you see the middle of a stick, aka the filler, dry out first vs the wrapper.

My logic and 3 cents.

If this conversation were about plug tobacco versus loose tobacco, then maybe. But short vs long, nach.

[FUEL]

Originally Posted by T.G

If this conversation were about plug tobacco versus loose tobacco, then maybe. But short vs long, nach.

I slept at a Holiday Inn Express once but never claimed to be an expert. I think that is where my brain might have been headed or was thinking of a short filler of the Swisher Sweets variety.

Nach, nach, nach!

SERENITY NOW!

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by FUEL

The group of smaller ice cubes due to surface area and density are going to melt more quickly than a larger block with more surface area. So the long filler will "maturate" more slowly, in theory, than a short filler. Or one could say the short filler cigar has more edges that are exposed to the elements vs. a properly hand rolled long filler. How often do you see the middle of a stick, aka the filler, dry out first vs the wrapper.

My logic and 3 cents.

The analogy of ice melting to tobacco maturing is about as valid as a 2013 check from Jimmy Hoffa, James.

[FUEL]

Originally Posted by icehog3

The analogy of ice melting to tobacco maturing is about as valid as a 2013 check from Jimmy Hoffa, James.

I explained it to several people and it made sense to them I think its just not translating from brain to fingers to keyboard.

I was just trying to say that with a short filler there is not as much protection if you will from the elements as a tightly wrapped long filler cigar and the short filler would lose its bite quicker due to it not being as tightly grouped I guess.

I dunno, F me, there is no hockey on tonight. All G-Damn day I have been looking forward to the Stanley Cup tonight and its not till tomorrow. Last nights 2 hours of "sleep" maybe catching up with me as well as my 260 mile round trip trek to the Mayo Clinic yesterday to have a second opinion on my knee.

So ignore the damn ice analogy and go with the first post Tom



J.

PS - Aren't Tuesdays the day where you are limited to LE talk only like we discussed? Hmm?