Tebow to the Pats

[icehog3]

Peter, I humbly disagree with a couple of your points. Or disagree with one, and take issue with another.

If Tebow is overrated, that is the work of others, the media, etc...Tebow doesn't "rate" himself. No reason to dislike him because others think he is better than he may be, at the NFL level.

As far at actors/athletes, etc, only talking about their profession...by that logic, I should only talk publically about law enforcement, and should keep my political/religious/etc views quiet. I humbly disagree, but will defend to the death your right to your opinion, 'cause I loves ya.

[FUEL]

Originally Posted by icehog3

Peter, I humbly disagree with a couple of your points. Or disagree with one, and take issue with another.

If Tebow is overrated, that is the work of others, the media, etc...Tebow doesn't "rate" himself. No reason to dislike him because others think he is better than he may be, at the NFL level.

As far at actors/athletes, etc, only talking about their profession...by that logic, I should only talk publically about law enforcement, and should keep my political/religious/etc views quiet. I humbly disagree, but will defend to the death your right to your opinion, 'cause I loves ya.

Tom I like this part, "If Tebow is overrated, that is the work of others, the media, etc...Tebow doesn't "rate" himself. No reason to dislike him because others think he is better than he may be, at the NFL level."

I agree.

As far as the rest, I don't know Peter so I can't speak for him, but I'm sure Brian would agree, there are times when we all wished you would only talk about LE


J. to bed!

all!

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by FUEL

As far as the rest, I don't know Peter so I can't speak for him, but I'm sure Brian would agree, there are times when we all wished you would only talk about LE

Well played, James, well played.

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by icehog3

Peter, I humbly disagree with a couple of your points. Or disagree with one, and take issue with another.

If Tebow is overrated, that is the work of others, the media, etc...Tebow doesn't "rate" himself. No reason to dislike him because others think he is better than he may be, at the NFL level.

As far at actors/athletes, etc, only talking about their profession...by that logic, I should only talk publically about law enforcement, and should keep my political/religious/etc views quiet. I humbly disagree, but will defend to the death your right to your opinion, 'cause I loves ya.

So let me clarify because I don't disagree with your disagreement.

To the first point, maybe I should say I don't like hearing about Tebow. I agree that is it not him who promotes his skills.

To the second point, I don't believe you should use your work "platform" to discuss these other views. Outside of work is different. Do you promote your views to others during gatherings at work? Of course not. My point is that when Tebow is being given exposure by, say, ESPN, he's got no reason to get into religion or politics. (An interview to discuss them specifically excluded) Same with movie/TV stars. At awards shows and interviews about their work, the other stuff has no place.

And I luvz ya too, Brother.

[FUEL]

Originally Posted by pnoon

So let me clarify because I don't disagree with your disagreement.

To the first point, maybe I should say I don't like hearing about Tebow. I agree that is it not him who promotes his skills.

To the second point, I don't believe you should use your work "platform" to discuss these other views. Outside of work is different. Do you promote your views to others during gatherings at work? Of course not. My point is that when Tebow is being given exposure by, say, ESPN, he's got no reason to get into religion or politics. (An interview to discuss them specifically excluded) Same with movie/TV stars. At awards shows and interviews about their work, the other stuff has no place.

And I luvz ya too, Brother.

Question on that theory. So does it upset you or do you oppose when a player is interviewed after a game say, and says something along the lines of "I want to thank God for blah blah blah," when players gather on the field after a game and pray in the middle of the field or score a touchdown and point to the sky?"

Not ragging on you Pete nor have malicious intent, just a friendly Q&A.

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by FUEL

Question on that theory. So does it upset you or do you oppose when a player is interviewed after a game say, and says something along the lines of "I want to thank God for blah blah blah," when players gather on the field after a game and pray in the middle of the field or score a touchdown and point to the sky?"

Not ragging on you Pete nor have malicious intent, just a friendly Q&A.

No offense taken. And I'm not "upset" by it.

"I want to thank God for blah blah blah," - I don't believe God had anything to do with their performance. Is God involved when an error is made or a pass is dropped?

Praying on the field after a game - no issue with that.

Pointing to the sky after a touchdown or home run - don't care for that. More because I think it's showboating. Silent thought and recognition would accomplish the same thing.

I respect everyone's religion and faith. But I also believe it is a personal thing and the media should not be used as an opportunity to interject (political or religious) beliefs.

Some may not see logic or consistency in my thoughts. But that is how I feel/react. But through civil discourse and exchange of opinions I learn and possibly change my perspectives as I grow. I don't buy into the "I'm too old and set in my ways" school of thinking.

[FUEL]

Originally Posted by pnoon

No offense taken. And I'm not "upset" by it.

"I want to thank God for blah blah blah," - I don't believe God had anything to do with their performance. Is God involved when an error is made or a pass is dropped?

Praying on the field after a game - no issue with that.

Pointing to the sky after a touchdown or home run - don't care for that. More because I think it's showboating. Silent thought and recognition would accomplish the same thing.

I respect everyone's religion and faith. But I also believe it is a personal thing and the media should not be used as an opportunity to interject (political or religious) beliefs.

Some may not see logic or consistency in my thoughts. But that is how I feel/react. But through civil discourse and exchange of opinions I learn and possibly change my perspectives as I grow. I don't buy into the "I'm too old and set in my ways" school of thinking.

I know Pete it's just that we don't know each other well yet and I didn't want you to think I was trolling or bating you that's all. I respect what you posted and agree about the media and religion and without making it a political post hence why I strongly believe in "separation of church and state" and will leave it at that to go no further =)

In regards to the your statement about praying on the field being "ok" with you are you simply kosher (no pun intended lol) to it as its not a "personal" provocation towards religion?

No harm no foul and apologize if I thread jacked or took this one further than forum rules allow.