You could have heard a pin drop.

[newcigarz]

Very nice Sir.

[JohnnyKay5]

always good for a laugh.. nice

[G G]

Originally Posted by newcigarz

Very nice Sir.

Have to agree.

[hotreds]

Hope this thread isn't too political for some of the mods here!

[Studebaker]

Originally Posted by hotreds

Hope this thread isn't too political for some of the mods here!

Ouch!

[CBI_2]

Thanks Fred. I think many in this country could do with a bit of this perspective.

[M1903A1]

[Da Klugs]

Originally Posted by hotreds

Hope this thread isn't too political for some of the mods here!

"Discussing" the French is a time honored tradition.

[Sauer Grapes]

Originally Posted by Da Klugs

"Discussing" the French is a time honored tradition.

American pastime where I'm from.

Nice thread Fred!

[Scottw]

Great job Fred. Awesome read.

Great reading....thanks Fred.

[M1903A1]

Originally Posted by Da Klugs

"Discussing" the French is a time honored tradition.

In a (teeny-tiny) touch of fairness, I read somewhere that the French losses in the spring of 1940 were on the order of fifty thousand (in about four weeks), so that's not exactly "rolling over" for the Germans.

Originally Posted by Da Klugs

"Discussing" the French is a time honored tradition.

Thats what I was thinking

[hotreds]

Freedom Fries, anyone?

[Don Fernando]

Originally Posted by hotreds

I find this picture pretty offending and very arrogant.

How about all the English, Australian, Dutch soldiers and all the other soldiers from different nationinalities fighting and dying in a war the Americans started? Now, normally I would not complain about it, but when an asshole wears an arrogant and very untrue statement like that on his uniform I think he should be severely punished. Behaviour like this makes me sick and if I was a politician I would seriously consider not renewing the Dutch mission in Afghanistan due to statements made by this asshole who should be glad that he is getting all international support at a high price.

[md4958]

Originally Posted by Don Fernando

I find this picture pretty offending and very arrogant.

How about all the English, Australian, Dutch soldiers and all the other soldiers from different nationinalities fighting and dying in a war the Americans started? Now, normally I would not complain about it, but when an asshole wears an arrogant and very untrue statement like that on his uniform I think he should be severely punished. Behaviour like this makes me sick and if I was a politician I would seriously consider not renewing the Dutch mission in Afghanistan due to statements made by this asshole who should be glad that he is getting all international support at a high price.

Pretty sure that those other patches were photo-shopped on there Don... so dont call the Court-Marshall yet!

[Rockestone]

Originally Posted by Don Fernando

I find this picture pretty offending and very arrogant.

How about all the English, Australian, Dutch soldiers and all the other soldiers from different nationinalities fighting and dying in a war the Americans started? Now, normally I would not complain about it, but when an asshole wears an arrogant and very untrue statement like that on his uniform I think he should be severely punished. Behaviour like this makes me sick and if I was a politician I would seriously consider not renewing the Dutch mission in Afghanistan due to statements made by this asshole who should be glad that he is getting all international support at a high price.

Pretty sure that's photo shopped. Don't think the regulations allow for such trivial, jovial statements.

[macms]

Originally Posted by Don Fernando

I find this picture pretty offending and very arrogant.

How about all the English, Australian, Dutch soldiers and all the other soldiers from different nationinalities fighting and dying in a war the Americans started? Now, normally I would not complain about it, but when an asshole wears an arrogant and very untrue statement like that on his uniform I think he should be severely punished. Behaviour like this makes me sick and if I was a politician I would seriously consider not renewing the Dutch mission in Afghanistan due to statements made by this asshole who should be glad that he is getting all international support at a high price.

Don, IMO you're entitled to feel outrage as I'm sure your countryman and soldiers would if they saw this. The intent of this thread was not to disrespect good men. The intent was to expose the insensitivity and arrogant attitudes of others toward our nation. Notice that I said others and not nations. I think we are wise enough to recognize the ignorant when they speak and know that they do not speak for reasonable people.

These are good and brave men.

PS I think we must always remember there are multi generational and historical experiences on CA.

[CigarDood]

Originally Posted by macms

The intent was to expose the insensitivity and arrogant attitudes of others toward our nation.

I think it's fine to talk about the great things Americans have done and be proud of our country, but let's all try not to expose the insensitivity and arrogant attitudes of our people towards others.

[Don Fernando]

Originally Posted by macms

Don, IMO you're entitled to feel outrage as I'm sure your countryman and soldiers would if they saw this. The intent of this thread was not to disrespect good men. The intent was to expose the insensitivity and arrogant attitudes of others toward our nation. Notice that I said others and not nations.

but Fred, doesn't this picture show that it is definately not a one way street? And IMO there is a difference in the stories you posted which are not bashing the army but in:
Story one - The policits of the Bush administration
Story two - The politics of the Bush administration
Story three - The arrogance of a French officer
Story four - An elderly man who didn't have his paperwork ready when going tru customs

but the statement on the picture is disrespect to the non American soldiers that are dying out there. What further fuels my rage about this picture is the fact that yes, thanks to the Americans (and Brits, Canadians, Australians & Maroccan) armed forces WWII ended and there has always been a great deal of respect and appriciation towards those troops. Now foreign troops are helping America out in two wars (I see Iraq and Afghanistan as two seperated wars) and we got shown disrespect in this way (I know not every is disrespecting the allied forces, I am just talking about this picture and the photoshopper who made it).