Surrogates

[neoflex]

I always find it comical at how much anything pertaining to Pete brings out the hate. There are a ton of smokes from many manufacturers with dumb ass names that no one ever mentions but if it's a stick produced by Pete a thread can grow to pages of hate. I always wonder what it is about the guy that makes people hate him so much. Hell for my palette his sticks very rarely disappoint and after meeting and speaking with him I had whole new respect for the guy. When it comes to tobacco they guy knows his sh*t.
The original concept when these dropped was a pretty awesome one. They were released exclusively for New Havana and the concept behind it was to offer a stick that had zero information behind it and have people try it and judge it strictly on the way it smokes. There was no info on who produced it or what factory it came from, where the tobacco originated from etc. They were a hit way before the information of what it was a year or so later. I know for myself after smoking the BC and SB that I had a sneaking suspicion that it was a Pete stick but I tend to smoke more Tat product than anything else so the profile was very familiar to me. I even heard rumor that Andre Farkas called Dan at NHC complaining about the bands which I too think was a private dig back at Andre as he has stolen many an idea from Pete and had the tables turned on him with it. That's just my opinion.
Yes, the names are goofy but the sticks are pretty solid and anyone who would automatically right off a stick and not try it because of the name will miss out on a lot of great sticks especially in today's day and age in the industry as goofy names are becoming more and more commonplace. Personally when people say that I usually silently call BS and figure they are trying to put up some fake online persona.
If a stick smokes great but is named the turd burglar I would have no shame in smoking it on a regular basis. At the end of the day you don't smoke the name.

[the jiggler]

Originally Posted by neoflex

I always find it comical at how much anything pertaining to Pete brings out the hate. There are a ton of smokes from many manufacturers with dumb ass names that no one ever mentions but if it's a stick produced by Pete a thread can grow to pages of hate. I always wonder what it is about the guy that makes people hate him so much. Hell for my palette his sticks very rarely disappoint and after meeting and speaking with him I had whole new respect for the guy. When it comes to tobacco they guy knows his sh*t.
The original concept when these dropped was a pretty awesome one. They were released exclusively for New Havana and the concept behind it was to offer a stick that had zero information behind it and have people try it and judge it strictly on the way it smokes. There was no info on who produced it or what factory it came from, where the tobacco originated from etc. They were a hit way before the information of what it was a year or so later. I know for myself after smoking the BC and SB that I had a sneaking suspicion that it was a Pete stick but I tend to smoke more Tat product than anything else so the profile was very familiar to me. I even heard rumor that Andre Farkas called Dan at NHC complaining about the bands which I too think was a private dig back at Andre as he has stolen many an idea from Pete and had the tables turned on him with it. That's just my opinion.
Yes, the names are goofy but the sticks are pretty solid and anyone who would automatically right off a stick and not try it because of the name will miss out on a lot of great sticks especially in today's day and age in the industry as goofy names are becoming more and more commonplace. Personally when people say that I usually silently call BS and figure they are trying to put up some fake online persona.
If a stick smokes great but is named the turd burglar I would have no shame in smoking it on a regular basis. At the end of the day you don't smoke the name.

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by neoflex

I always find it comical at how much anything pertaining to Pete brings out the hate. There are a ton of smokes from many manufacturers with dumb ass names that no one ever mentions but if it's a stick produced by Pete a thread can grow to pages of hate.

For me, it has nothing to do with Pete.
A stupid name is a stupid name - no matter who makes it.

[Zane]

I might have to pick up some of these. I have heard good things.

[44stampede]

Originally Posted by pnoon

For me, it has nothing to do with Pete.
A stupid name is a stupid name - no matter who makes it.

I had no idea who made it nor did I say I thought they sucked or wouldn't try one ever based on the name. Just think the name is stupid.

[lenguamor]

Originally Posted by pnoon

For me, it has nothing to do with Pete.
A stupid name is a stupid name - no matter who makes it.

I agree. It just seems to be the way of the world, Peter; doncha know that, deep down inside, we all wanna be bikers and/or SF snipers?

I will say that I tried a Bonecrusher; got about 1/4 in, definitely not my cup of tea. I gave it a shot, though.