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jitzy · 01-14-2009, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pnoon

What is "password scrambling"? And why is it unethical?
(The answer to the first question may answer my second)

as an admin Daniel would change a members password so they could not log on to the site anymore so that he would not have to ban them but just make it so and I quote " Just make it look like they left" as far as unethical I feel that way cause you agree to a user agreement and he would "cheat" that agreement in his favor

pnoon · 01-14-2009, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jitzy

as an admin Daniel would change a members password so they could not log on to the site anymore so that he would not have to ban them but just make it so and I quote " Just make it look like they left" as far as unethical I feel that way cause you agree to a user agreement and he would "cheat" that agreement in his favor

No need to convince me it's unethical the way he would ban people. Not cool in my book.

jitzy · 01-14-2009, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pnoon

No need to convince me it's unethical the way he would ban people. Not cool in my book.

not cool at all, if you want to ban someone then just do it thats a see you next tuesday way of doing it.

Da Klugs · 01-14-2009, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jitzy

as an admin Daniel would change a members password so they could not log on to the site anymore so that he would not have to ban them but just make it so and I quote " Just make it look like they left" as far as unethical I feel that way cause you agree to a user agreement and he would "cheat" that agreement in his favor

Fair enough, not the bravest of options. Conversely, we have nothing but love for PDS. Character is an evolved trait and we all fall short in the face of adversity at times.

CS is merged and CL soon to follow. It's now old news for us CS folks and soon to be for the CL crowd as well, helps to get closure and be able to move on. This thread could be contrued as a lil "therapy" gettin it out so its.. well over with.

jitzy · 01-14-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Da Klugs

Fair enough. Conversely, we have nothing but love for PDS. Character is an evolved trait and we all fall short in the face of adversity at times.

CS is merged and CL soon to follow. It's now old news for us CS folks and soon to be for the CL crowd as well, helps to get closure and be able to move on. This thread could be contrued as a lil "therapy" gettin it out so its.. well over with.

I can't say anything negative about PDS he truly has nothing to do with any of my feelings about this "merger"

Da Klugs · 01-14-2009, 12:58 PM

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I can't say anything negative about PDS he truly has nothing to do with any of my feelings about this "merger"

Well you should look at the positive things that have come about from it...

CA and CO

New guy there has much to measure up to in contrast with Paul, time will tell in his iteration at bat. However, he's already shown better character than the other CL guy per your example. Agree or disagree with the plans, intent, new look, etc, from an ownership perspective could do a lot worse. Personally, looks to me like what they are building will benefit the cigar community as a whole by bringing new lovers of the leaf into our world. Where they choose to nest once they mature is entirely up to them.

jitzy · 01-14-2009, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Da Klugs

Fair enough, not the bravest of options. Conversely, we have nothing but love for PDS. Character is an evolved trait and we all fall short in the face of adversity at times.

CS is merged and CL soon to follow. It's now old news for us CS folks and soon to be for the CL crowd as well, helps to get closure and be able to move on. This thread could be contrued as a lil "therapy" gettin it out so its.. well over with.

As far as my comments about Daniel running club stogie I'm not saying this to take a shot at PDS, this was what was told to me by Daniel he said PDS did not have the time to do it (to me it sounds like PDS was smart to not want to be a part of it and pretend nothing was gonna change except for the better and for that I have nothing but respect for him)

Just a question was the character in adverse times directed at me? (not trying to start a fight just wondering

VirtualSmitty · 01-14-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jitzy

as an admin Daniel would change a members password so they could not log on to the site anymore so that he would not have to ban them but just make it so and I quote " Just make it look like they left" as far as unethical I feel that way cause you agree to a user agreement and he would "cheat" that agreement in his favor

Couldn't they just reset their password though? It's a bs way of going about banning people but there is normally a link to forgot your password or some thing along those lines.

jitzy · 01-14-2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty

Couldn't they just reset their password though? It's a bs way of going about banning people but there is normally a link to forgot your password or some thing along those lines.

you can't reset your password if you can't log in

edit: I just got what you meant and I know there was something that he did with that too with the email registered to the account

VirtualSmitty · 01-14-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jitzy

you can't reset your password if you can't log in

Yes you can. if it doesn't take vbulletin takes you to a screen that says you have so many log in attempts left as well as a link to "did you forget your password'. Pretty standard stuff on all the boards.

jitzy · 01-14-2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty

Yes you can. if it doesn't take vbulletin takes you to a screen that says you have so many log in attempts left as well as a link to "did you forget your password'. Pretty standard stuff on all the boards.

I edited that post I think he changes the email too thats connected to the account

VirtualSmitty · 01-14-2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jitzy

I edited that post I think he changes the email too thats connected to the account

That would make more sense, though I would caution you against calling someone out if you think but know for sure he did what your accusing him of doing.

Da Klugs · 01-14-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty

That would make more sense, though I would caution you against calling someone out if you think but know for sure he did what your accusing him of doing.

Well said... herf sleeper!

(We have photograhic evidence)

jitzy · 01-14-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty

That would make more sense, though I would caution you against calling someone out if you think but know for sure he did what your accusing him of doing.

I'm not making false claims he said the same thing to 3 of us during a skype call one night, also when I called him out on it on live he said he was gonna change them to baned instead of that. You also have a couple of guys on this forum that it was done to, I'm not gonna say publicly who they are but if they want to they could chime in