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Old 01-14-2009, 11:23 AM   #1
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Default Re: Humidor woes with stabilization

Humidity will sink lower obviously, because moisture in the air weighs more than the air around it.

Have you tried putting the Hydra more in the middle of the cabinet to balance it out? Are your fans blowing in a circular sequence (moving air up one side and down the other)?



I used some flexible plastic duct tubing to route the flow of moist air in my Vino from the Oasis at the bottom up to the top. I sealed the top end and drilled half inch holes along the length to allow moist air to flow out evenly at all heights.

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That's the hosing I used. Took longer to drill the holes in the soft plastic (ended up using a broom handle to stiffen it while I drilled) than it did to install it so that the Oasis blows directly up the tube (tube resting on the Oasis blow hole).


Edit to add that a HumidiFresh commercial humidifier is the absolute best you can do. Those are VERY capable machines that regulate humidity very well. The downside is the cost at $350 for the unit.
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Old 01-14-2009, 11:40 AM   #2
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Default Re: Humidor woes with stabilization

I was thinking about moving it (the Hydra) to the middle. I think the issue might be the drawers in the middle that are blocking alot of air flow. I haven't heard of anyone who has the same unit having these issues though.

I like the idea of running the tubing and "venting" every so often, but don't think it'll work due to the shelving/drawers. I'll check the clearances tonight.

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I was thinking about moving it (the Hydra) to the middle. I think the issue might be the drawers in the middle that are blocking alot of air flow. I haven't heard of anyone who has the same unit having these issues though.

I like the idea of running the tubing and "venting" every so often, but don't think it'll work due to the shelving/drawers. I'll check the clearances tonight.

Thanks for the input!!

If there's any clearance, you should be able to pull it off...that tubing is fairly flexible and can flatten out well enough to get around my Vino shelves in the back.
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Old 01-14-2009, 12:34 PM   #4
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I used some flexible plastic duct tubing to route the flow of moist air in my Vino from the Oasis at the bottom up to the top. I sealed the top end and drilled half inch holes along the length to allow moist air to flow out evenly at all heights.
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Maybe you could move it to the top/middle and then use beads at the bottom. As Silound stated, the humidity will sink and heat rises. The heat, especially right now with it being winter (if you are in a colder climate) is going to dry that thing up.
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Humidity will sink lower obviously, because moisture in the air weighs more than the air around it.
Uhh, no.
Humidity rises.
Earth's air is mostly made of Nitrogen (N2) and Oxygen (O2). The molecular weight of each is 28 & 32 respectively. Water is H2O, molecular weight is 18. Humid air will rise.
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Uhh, no.
Humidity rises.
Earth's air is mostly made of Nitrogen (N2) and Oxygen (O2). The molecular weight of each is 28 & 32 respectively. Water is H2O, molecular weight is 18. Humid air will rise.
True in calculations under fixed conditions, not true in chemical applications. This is why good engineers who design dryers are so highly in demand.


Temperature, pressure, and agitation determine whether humid air rises or falls. In most cases, normal convection is often replicated in normal conditions at different temperature and pressures with still air. Agitation will cause a rise/fall to be more prominent in some conditions, while in others it will simply cause a state of confusion.
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Default Re: Humidor woes with stabilization

Yeah, it took a little over a week to season it when I first got it. Running the humidifier and having a pan of water in the top that I kept re-filling.

I just got the holes drilled and three fans setup. I'm ordering another fan tomorrow. Just need to decide how I want to power the fourth, the Hydra is only rated for 3 fans i think.
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I just got the holes drilled and three fans setup. I'm ordering another fan tomorrow. Just need to decide how I want to power the fourth, the Hydra is only rated for 3 fans i think.
I'd snag an old power supply from a computer and hook up computer fans to it and then put them on a timer.

You could also splice into one of the fans and run two of them in series unless that is how it is already setup. Someone with more knowledge on the Hydra fan kits would know better though.
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Yep, that's what I'm working out now. I work for an IT company, so I'm using a 12V adaptor with molex connectors/splitters. I'm just gonna wire them all together and take the load off the Hydra.
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Yep, that's what I'm working out now. I work for an IT company, so I'm using a 12V adaptor with molex connectors/splitters. I'm just gonna wire them all together and take the load off the Hydra.
Sweet, you should post a write-up on how to wire that all together, where you got the parts, etc. There are other members that have done similar setups but I have yet to see a thorough "how-to" with pics. I may do one when I get around to re-doing mine but it's only 2 fans, not 4+.
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