Tragic shooting death involving off duty Detroit Police officer

emopunker2004 · 07-10-2012, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ApexAZ

Moral of the story: Don't carry cocked with a round in the chamber. Use a revolver for safer self defense.

Makes no sense. A gun without a chambered round is a blunt trauma weapon. Go watch some of the videos out there of robberies where an employee has to chamber a round before shooting and gets shot multiple times. If its a hammer fired gun, cocked and locked. If it's striker fired(glock, xd, m&p) keep your bugger hook off the trigger and carry in a PROPER holster and it will not go bang.

ApexAZ · 07-10-2012, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by emopunker2004

Makes no sense. A gun without a chambered round is a blunt trauma weapon. Go watch some of the videos out there of robberies where an employee has to chamber a round before shooting and gets shot multiple times. If its a hammer fired gun, cocked and locked. If it's striker fired(glock, xd, m&p) keep your bugger hook off the trigger and carry in a PROPER holster and it will not go bang.

There is absolutly nothing that makes sense about about how the poor woman died.

HollywoodQue · 07-10-2012, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ApexAZ

There is absolutly nothing that makes sense about about how the poor woman died.

It never makes sense when anyone is killed. All of it is saddening brother.

Blueface · 07-10-2012, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by emopunker2004

Makes no sense. A gun without a chambered round is a blunt trauma weapon. Go watch some of the videos out there of robberies where an employee has to chamber a round before shooting and gets shot multiple times. If its a hammer fired gun, cocked and locked. If it's striker fired(glock, xd, m&p) keep your bugger hook off the trigger and carry in a PROPER holster and it will not go bang.

I agree and carry mine with a bullet in the chamber. If in the heat of the moment, you have to pull the gun, remember to pull the slide and then aim and shoot, you will likely be dead long before the bullet makes it to the chamber. Hope I never have to use it but if I do, it will be loaded. The trigger pull is so long, can't see it accidentally firing on me.

icehog3 · 07-10-2012, 06:16 PM

[quote=Blueface;1677059 If in the heat of the moment, you have to pull the gun, remember to pull the slide and then aim and shoot, you will likely be dead long before the bullet makes it to the chamber. [/QUOTE]

Unless you train consistently that way, Carlos. In the heat of the moment, one who trains regularly will revert back to how he trains instinctually. I train in the range, with my off-duty weapon, to draw, rack and fire.

Blueface · 07-10-2012, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Unless you train consistently that way, Carlos. In the heat of the moment, one who trains regularly will revert back to how he trains instinctually. I train in the range, with my off-duty weapon, to draw, rack and fire.

I think you have a clear advantage in that most folks won't practice as much as someone in law enforcement does.
I hit the rang twice a month on average.
I try to practice drawing regularly but since my carry is a Ruger LCP, with that small slide, not sure I can practice enough to be comfortable.
I want to get something bigger like a Glock 26 for more times than not and would definitely feel better racking that slide in a bind.

HollywoodQue · 07-10-2012, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Unless you train consistently that way, Carlos. In the heat of the moment, one who trains regularly will revert back to how he trains instinctually. I train in the range, with my off-duty weapon, to draw, rack and fire.

Yeah Tom, and if one trains constantly and you find yourself in a possible shoot out, my weapon always appears in my hand, chambered, aiming, and ready to fire and guess what, I don't even remember drawing it, it was automatically in my hand. Wow.

icehog3 · 07-10-2012, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HollywoodQue

Yeah Tom, and if one trains constantly and you find yourself in a possible shoot out, my weapon always appears in my hand, chambered, aiming, and ready to fire and guess what, I don't even remember drawing it, it was automatically in my hand. Wow.

Exactly, Howard.

IBQTEE1 · 07-11-2012, 09:55 AM

Thanks Howard for the reenactment. It is a sad story.

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