The Poor Mans Behike?

[DaBear]

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

Exactly, Cubans are very PROUD people. That's just how their culture is. They know they have the best tobacco in the world, and they will tell you that.

Yes, just so proud that they forcibly steal brands from their own people and then later sue the same people they just stole a brand from when said people try to re-start their brand in a different country.(see Montecristo in my above post)

The later part of your post is entirely subjective.

Originally Posted by DaBear

Yes, just so proud that they forcibly steal brands from their own people and then later sue the same people they just stole a brand from when said people try to re-start their brand in a different country.(see Montecristo in my above post)

The later part of your post is entirely subjective.

[DaBear]

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

So we're laughing at the Cuban Revolution and all the atrocities committed by both sides both before and after the Revolution? I don't see whats so funny, frankly you're just coming across as an ass(which I'm sure I am as well, no helping it, inflection can't really be recreated on the internet).

Originally Posted by DaBear

So we're laughing at the Cuban Revolution and all the atrocities committed by both sides both before and after the Revolution? I don't see whats so funny, frankly you're just coming across as an ass(which I'm sure I am as well, no helping it, inflection can't really be recreated on the internet).

Name calling is childish (and against this forums rules)

Originally Posted by DaBear

So we're laughing at the Cuban Revolution and all the atrocities committed by both sides both before and after the Revolution? I don't see whats so funny, frankly you're just coming across as an ass(which I'm sure I am as well, no helping it, inflection can't really be recreated on the internet).

I know you said "so we're laughing at the Cuban Revolution", but I can tell you I'm not, so you must be laughing by yourself.

[DaBear]

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

I know you said "so we're laughing at the Cuban Revolution", but I can tell you I'm not, so you must be laughing by yourself.

Hence why I worded it as a question. There were a couple things I said that you could have been responding to. Since you have just ruled out the forced theft of a company by the Cuban government in 1961, you must have been laughing at either the plight of Mendez, Garcia y Cia, the rightful owners of Montecristo, or you're laughing at the fact that tastes are subjective, particularly the view that one area in which tobacco is grown is better than others.

I'm not saying you said this or calling you out on this, but the same argument that cigar tobacco grown in area A is better than in area B is the same argument used to justify the Jim Crow laws of the past.(If a mod feels I went a little too far here, feel free to remove this part of my post, no hard feelings)

Originally Posted by DaBear

Hence why I worded it as a question. There were a couple things I said that you could have been responding to. Since you have just ruled out the forced theft of a company by the Cuban government in 1961, you must have been laughing at either the plight of Mendez, Garcia y Cia, the rightful owners of Montecristo, or you're laughing at the fact that tastes are subjective, particularly the view that one area in which tobacco is grown is better than others.

I'm not saying you said this or calling you out on this, but the same argument that cigar tobacco grown in area A is better than in area B is the same argument used to justify the Jim Crow laws of the past.(If a mod feels I went a little too far here, feel free to remove this part of my post, no hard feelings)

That's a horrible analogy and in bad taste. If you felt it was inappropriate, why post it? I'm sure you knew it would offend someone, and I would say you accomplished that

[DaBear]

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

That's a horrible analogy and in bad taste. If you felt it was inappropriate, why post it? I'm sure you knew it would offend someone, and I would say you accomplished that

If I did offend someone I will offer my apologies, but it is not a horrible analogy. Not in exactly the best taste, which I will admit, but it is a legitimate analogy of the thought process. In both cases one side thinks that a particular species is better since it came from one region and act(ed) as such. I added the parenthesis at the end for if a mod felt we were going too far off the topic. In either case, this should be it for me with this thread so as not to continue derailing the thread(which, it had successfully done by page 2, before I even posted).

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by DaBear

The later part of your post is entirely subjective.

Absolutely true, just as those who are saying that CCs can't hold a candle to Nicaraguan cigars in this thread are also making subjective statements. That's the thing about tastes and preferences in cigars....they're ALL subjective. Smoke what you like, like what you smoke, (and keep it civil, Gentlemens.)