Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum  

Go Back   Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum > Non Cigar Specialty Forums > Misc > General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-02-2012, 06:29 AM   #1
RichieBklyn
I'm going to smoke...
 
RichieBklyn's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
First Name: Richie bklyn
Location: Brooklyn NY
Posts: 70
Trading: (0)
Bolivar
RichieBklyn is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Stock market

Quote:
Originally Posted by hammondc View Post
OK. Here is one. Where should invest about $30k to get a decent return and still have it available if I needed it. Right now it is in a money market, but the return is like $4 a month.
If you are investing your money it is impossible to still have it available . Once you put the 30k somewhere it may be 29k or 31k the next day... I would only invest monies I do not need to rely on for atleast 5 years... JMO
__________________
Boooyyyyaaaaaahhhhhh!!!
RichieBklyn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2012, 06:48 AM   #2
hammondc
Moar Padrons!
 
hammondc's Avatar
1
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
First Name: Chip
Location: Senoia, GA
Posts: 2,626
Trading: (17)
Partagas
hammondc has a spectacular aura abouthammondc has a spectacular aura abouthammondc has a spectacular aura about
Default Re: Stock market

Quote:
Originally Posted by RichieBklyn View Post
If you are investing your money it is impossible to still have it available . Once you put the 30k somewhere it may be 29k or 31k the next day... I would only invest monies I do not need to rely on for atleast 5 years... JMO
Thanks. OK, howabout I rephrase that to 'park' it somewhere that I can get better than the very minimal return I have at the bank in a Money Market? I have no problem leaving it, but would like to be able to get to it if the SHTF
hammondc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2012, 07:03 AM   #3
RichieBklyn
I'm going to smoke...
 
RichieBklyn's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
First Name: Richie bklyn
Location: Brooklyn NY
Posts: 70
Trading: (0)
Bolivar
RichieBklyn is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Stock market

Quote:
Originally Posted by hammondc View Post
Thanks. OK, howabout I rephrase that to 'park' it somewhere that I can get better than the very minimal return I have at the bank in a Money Market? I have no problem leaving it, but would like to be able to get to it if the SHTF
The first thing that comes to mind is government bonds, you can find many different bond funds... something like Fidelity Government Income Fund(FGOVX)
__________________
Boooyyyyaaaaaahhhhhh!!!
RichieBklyn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2012, 08:24 AM   #4
Silound
ex-CS Swamp Gorilla
 
Silound's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Somewhere in a swamp, south of sanity
Posts: 802
Trading: (15)
Bolivar
Silound will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Stock market

Quote:
Originally Posted by hammondc View Post
Thanks. OK, howabout I rephrase that to 'park' it somewhere that I can get better than the very minimal return I have at the bank in a Money Market? I have no problem leaving it, but would like to be able to get to it if the SHTF
If a situation arose where the SHTF on a large scale (national crisis, global crisis), you wouldn't be able to get your money out in time without taking a beating, or even worse case, it would be worthless once you got it out. Personally, I feel that if cash money is rendered worthless for some reason, then it's pointless to care about any other investments anyway


If a more personal crisis arose and you needed money **today**, you would need cash or cash-equivalent money funds to be able to withdraw them immediately. Any other sort of investment trade will take at least a day to process and deliver funds. It's just how brokerages work: to get the best prices and values, they consolidate by grouping large numbers of the same investment together for larger trades.


Many large investment brokerages offer short term loan services against your portfolio though, so you could initiate a sale immediately, and they could set up a cash advance against that sale for a flat fee or percentage of interest. Usually this is a pretty high interest rate, but it's compounded daily, so you only eat 3-6 days of interest build-up. Since they know you have the liquidity to back it when the trade goes through, it's a very low risk loan for the brokerage to make, and they get to make a dime off of you. I had to do this once and only got hit for ~$50 on a substantial sale.


I would speak with a couple CFAs from different brokerages and see what kinds of options they offer. Every company has different means and methods, but what you're asking about is not uncommon in the realm of investments, especially for retired persons.
__________________
Back in black, and better than ever! You can't keep a good gorilla down!
LSU Geaux Tigers!
Silound is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2012, 08:50 AM   #5
Da Klugs
Juan of 11
 
Da Klugs's Avatar
1
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Dave
Location: Right here
Posts: 4,222
Trading: (8)
RA
Da Klugs has disabled reputation
Default Re: Stock market

The Fed is making everyone take more risk to get a decent return. By holding rates at these historic lows, retirees have to make tough decisions when their T-Bills mature.

Lot's of conflicting information on this. Traditional fight between bulls and bears with vested interests embeded in all views.

Pay attention to PE ratios.
__________________
Communities Not Commodities.
Punctuation challenged, but trying. Proud winner of phase 1 of the Weight loss contest
Da Klugs is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:37 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
All content is copyrighted jointly by Cigar Asylum and the content provider.