Saints accused of "Bounty Program". Thoughts?

[E.J.]

Originally Posted by shilala

I was just thinking about how deep this "bounty" thing goes. College and High School players get a sticker on their helmet for big plays. If a kid knocks the opposing team's starting QB out of the game, you can sure bet he's gonna get a sticker.

Welcome to page 1, Scott....

Originally Posted by E.J.

In High School and College, the bounties are stickers on your helmet... They go out headhunting, leave a few guys withering on the ground, you can bet they'll be adding to their stamp collection. The guys in the NFL just get paid more....

[shilala]

Originally Posted by E.J.

Welcome to page 1, Scott....

Lol. I was pressed for time. I usually read everything before I post, I read way faster than I type.
You were absolutely right, by the way!!!

[BHalbrooks]

Originally Posted by E.J.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...welker-injury/

Seems like he felt pretty unlucky about his situation, calling the injuries terrible and not being pleased at all about them.... I couldn't find anything on him saying he went out to intentionally injure....

Do you have any links to back up your statements?

I haven't searched for it online. I just heard a clip from an interview after they lost saying he's ok with it, and he's also ok with the Title of "Patriot Killer".

Edit: Link on Google. That was the 3rd result. I didn't look past it, don't really care to haha.

Originally Posted by Stephen

Who's stated that they're still cheating? As an aside, their pre and post Spygate playoff records are pretty telling...

All that being said, I STILL don't think either of these situations (Spygate, Bountygate) is as bad as what the Broncos did when they won their two Super Bowls.

A lot of people that root for other teams, especially NY fans, still bring it up, saying that they're probably still cheating. I wouldn't say they aren't as good since they aren't doing it anymore. Take the D that won the 2007 SB, change it for this years, and they'd have another SB victory... Easily.

I'm not sure what they did. Fill me in?

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by BHalbrooks

A lot of people that root for other teams, especially NY fans, still bring it up, saying that they're probably still cheating.

So fans of other teams busting chops? No offense, but whoopity damn doo. I still hear about Favre and his vicodin addiction, and his flashing his wee-wee, etc., and those things are completely irrelevant to the Packers (and have been for some time).

Originally Posted by BHalbrooks

I wouldn't say they aren't as good since they aren't doing it anymore

Their playoff record disagrees with you, and what gives a lot of fuel to the fire as to how big of an impact it made in the Patriots winning three Super Bowls.

Originally Posted by BHalbrooks

Take the D that won the 2007 SB, change it for this years, and they'd have another SB victory... Easily.

Ok. Except the team that won the Super Bowl in 2007 won it again this year.

Originally Posted by BHalbrooks

I'm not sure what they did. Fill me in?

Grossly circumvented the salary cap which directly led them to being able to put together that team that won back-to-back Super Bowls in the late 90's. If I remember correctly they were fined alomst a million dollars and forfeited a couple of draft picks.

[E.J.]

Originally Posted by BHalbrooks

I haven't searched for it online. I just heard a clip from an interview after they lost saying he's ok with it, and he's also ok with the Title of "Patriot Killer".

Edit: Link on Google. That was the 3rd result. I didn't look past it, don't really care to haha.
in?

You need to read what you are linking.... He said it was a clean hit, no malicious intent, Brady just happened to get hurt. In a nutshell....

“The hit on Brady,” Pollard said on Thursday. “Look, it’s football, at the end of the day guys get hurt every Sunday. I think the fact of the matter is that in this case it was Tom Brady. Nothing was intentional, nothing was malicious. When that happened, we had other guys go down that day and nothing happened.”

“I took pride because I didn’t do anything wrong,” Pollard said. “This is a game where anything can happen. I don’t care about recognition, I don’t care about being the face of the NFL, I’m just blessed to be able to do what I do.”

You don't care? So you make strong statements, refuting previous comments, but really don't care if they are true or to back them up.....

I again ask you to find me something that says that Mr. Pollard or any other NFL play states that they are going out trying to blow up knees, ankles, ruin careers/seasons. Guys lose a season to a knee regularly, but I cannot think of a hit on a season ending play that I thought was overtly malicious or dirty.


...and just to be clear, to be okay with doing your job and having someone get a season ending injury, doesn't mean that you went out to intentionally injure/maim. It doesn't mean that you are okay with dirty plays that result in season ending injuries. It doesn't mean that you are going out trying to end guys seasons/careers.

A player can be fine with the result of a clean hit, even if it ends with an injury. Hell, these guys will be living with a lot of regret if they have to worry about every time someone gets hurt. One more time....

My statement -

Originally Posted by E.J.

I don't believe that any of these people were going after knees ect. I am not sure there is a player in the NFL that is going to intentionally take out someone's ACL or the like, I just don't believe that.

Your response, quoting my post -

Originally Posted by BHalbrooks

Bernard Pollard said he did, and he liked hurting Patriots players.

[E.J.]

Originally Posted by shilala

Lol. I was pressed for time. I usually read everything before I post, I read way faster than I type.
You were absolutely right, by the way!!!

I am actually surprised that it hasn't come up with the national media. It seems like a clear correlation to me and I don't think a d-coordinator saying to his players that the object of the game plan is to hit certain players over and over and over, "put them on the bench." Hell, I think it is a solid gameplan.

I think the issues appears to be a reward for success.....