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Old 02-22-2012, 09:50 AM   #1
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I see it as him pointing out the issue may not be the humidor. Everyone has been very helpful with their advice, and not much of it was taken seriously. That could be taken as insulting by some people if they are putting forth time and effort to help you out with your problem.

Most have been very helpful. Most of what he said was not helpful.
Telling me I shouldn't have bought it there and this and that..........

Wasnt even related to my question at hand.
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Old 02-22-2012, 10:04 AM   #2
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Most have been very helpful. Most of what he said was not helpful.
Telling me I shouldn't have bought it there and this and that..........

Wasnt even related to my question at hand.
Chippewastud wasn't the least bit disrespectful. On the other hand, you clearly were. Everything he said was pertinent, you'd know that if you had nearly the experience he or the others have.
Everyone tried to point out that patience is required. You didn't exercise patience in your procedure, nor with your brother here.
It's achingly clear where the problem lies, Josh.
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Old 02-22-2012, 10:06 AM   #3
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Chippewastud wasn't the least bit disrespectful. On the other hand, you clearly were. Everything he said was pertinent, you'd know that if you had nearly the experience he or the others have.
Everyone tried to point out that patience is required. You didn't exercise patience in your procedure, nor with your brother here.
It's achingly clear where the problem lies, Josh.
well, I apoligize.

I just read the sticky and it said 14 days to properly season a humi. Its been longer than that so I assumed I had a problem.
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Old 02-22-2012, 10:18 AM   #4
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well, I apoligize.

I just read the sticky and it said 14 days to properly season a humi. Its been longer than that so I assumed I had a problem.
You have a new humi coming, so it's beside the point now, but in the two weeks you added cigars, or at least that's the way it reads.
Sometimes it takes longer, especially in winter.
The best way to attack this when the new humi comes is to ask the guys and try to have lots of patience. It takes a long time to get a humi seasoned and the cigars all equalized with the humidor. Not weeks, months.
It takes a lot of time and patience, so prepare for that.
Good luck!!!
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Old 02-22-2012, 10:20 AM   #5
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You have a new humi coming, so it's beside the point now, but in the two weeks you added cigars, or at least that's the way it reads.
Sometimes it takes longer, especially in winter.
The best way to attack this when the new humi comes is to ask the guys and try to have lots of patience. It takes a long time to get a humi seasoned and the cigars all equalized with the humidor. Not weeks, months.
It takes a lot of time and patience, so prepare for that.
Good luck!!!
I think I'm gonna put the sticks in a bag with beads and let the humidor season without the sticks in it.

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I think I'm gonna put the sticks in a bag with beads and let the humidor season without the sticks in it.

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That's exactly what you want to do.
I think you'll have a lot more luck with this next humidor, too. I had one that was all glass in the front and the lid and it was nearly impossible to keep the RH up even with a hydra and tons of beads. There was no fixing that one, either.
If you want, and it really helps, you can add a couple little sponges when you season next time. Wet them with distilled water and sit them on a plate or dish. It increases the surface area dramatically and will deliver a ton more moisture to the air than bowls with water do.
Try not to open the humi at all during seasoning, or maybe just very briefly every couple days to check your dishes and/or sponges. If they need attention, make sure you close the humidor immediately. That'll help keep you moving ahead instead of backwards.

Once you put your sticks and beads in, you're committed. Same thing, try not to open the humi. If you need to check, do it quickly and no more than maybe every couple days.

Something else...
The humidor will stabilize and recover RH a lot better once it nearly full of sticks. It's a lot tougher to maintain any kind of RH in any empty humi. The cigars will act as a water-sink and help to control the humidity with the beads.
If your new big humidor is going to be mostly empty, it's going to be tough to control your RH. That's good reason to fill it up.
3/4's full is probably the best situation you can get, that way it allows for a little order here and there, and leaves some air space for circulation.
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Old 02-22-2012, 10:39 AM   #7
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That's exactly what you want to do.
I think you'll have a lot more luck with this next humidor, too. I had one that was all glass in the front and the lid and it was nearly impossible to keep the RH up even with a hydra and tons of beads. There was no fixing that one, either.
If you want, and it really helps, you can add a couple little sponges when you season next time. Wet them with distilled water and sit them on a plate or dish. It increases the surface area dramatically and will deliver a ton more moisture to the air than bowls with water do.
Try not to open the humi at all during seasoning, or maybe just very briefly every couple days to check your dishes and/or sponges. If they need attention, make sure you close the humidor immediately. That'll help keep you moving ahead instead of backwards.

Once you put your sticks and beads in, you're committed. Same thing, try not to open the humi. If you need to check, do it quickly and no more than maybe every couple days.

Something else...
The humidor will stabilize and recover RH a lot better once it nearly full of sticks. It's a lot tougher to maintain any kind of RH in any empty humi. The cigars will act as a water-sink and help to control the humidity with the beads.
If your new big humidor is going to be mostly empty, it's going to be tough to control your RH. That's good reason to fill it up.
3/4's full is probably the best situation you can get, that way it allows for a little order here and there, and leaves some air space for circulation.
Thanks for the great information.

Again, I apolagize to everyone that has read this and has been insulted by my attitude.

You all have been helpful. I am the one with a poor attitude.
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Old 02-22-2012, 04:03 PM   #8
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If you want, and it really helps, you can add a couple little sponges when you season next time. Wet them with distilled water and sit them on a plate or dish. It increases the surface area dramatically and will deliver a ton more moisture to the air than bowls with water do.
I did this and it worked great. My RH only drops when the beads need to be recharged.
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Old 02-22-2012, 07:43 PM   #9
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It's a lot tougher to maintain any kind of RH in any empty humi.
I'm glad you guys taught me that. My coolidor was giving me fits until I filled it to the top. I made a crappy skirt for the inner lip of the lid using plastic wrap and I rarely have to add humidification now.

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3/4's full is probably the best situation you can get, that way it allows for a little order here and there, and leaves some air space for circulation.
I need to get some organization going, I've been buying samplers to get a little experience and half of the cooler is a heap of singles and five finger bags. It's hell trying to find something.
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