Does anyone have a Nissan Murano or a Ford Edge?

[kydsid]

Haven't had either, but I will say the Murano has a variant or has the venerable VQ35DE V6 which is one of the best engines of all time. I have had a couple vehicles with that engine, its awesome and reliable beyound reproach.

Now if the Murano has Nissan's CVT run the hell away. They have never gotten the CVT right and I'm a big Nissan fan.

I have driven both and have to say the ride and driveability I like the Edge better.



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[Thrak]

Originally Posted by kydsid

Haven't had either, but I will say the Murano has a variant or has the venerable VQ35DE V6 which is one of the best engines of all time. I have had a couple vehicles with that engine, its awesome and reliable beyound reproach.

I wouldnt go that far.. after my expeirences with that engine in 2 different cars, I'll never own a Nissan again, much less a VQ35 based one. The low tensions rings cause the engine to burn oil like crazy. Its so bad that in the rev-up 350z's that Nissan had to come out and claim 1qt of oil every 1000miles is normal.... yeah right. The plugs are a nightmare to do, oil changes suck if its a FWD configuration, and the pcv valves gum up practically the same day you put it in because theres so much blow-by...

I'm adding oil every 2-3 weeks in my wifes Altima 3.5, and no leaks or drips anywhere to be seen... I cant wait to trade this lump in.

OTOH, my 4Runner is rock solid. We're leaning towards a Highlander for her next vehicle too because we've had such good luck w/ the 4R.

[Sauer Grapes]

Originally Posted by Thrak

I wouldnt go that far.. after my expeirences with that engine in 2 different cars, I'll never own a Nissan again, much less a VQ35 based one. The low tensions rings cause the engine to burn oil like crazy. Its so bad that in the rev-up 350z's that Nissan had to come out and claim 1qt of oil every 1000miles is normal.... yeah right. The plugs are a nightmare to do, oil changes suck if its a FWD configuration, and the pcv valves gum up practically the same day you put it in because theres so much blow-by...

I'm adding oil every 2-3 weeks in my wifes Altima 3.5, and no leaks or drips anywhere to be seen... I cant wait to trade this lump in.

OTOH, my 4Runner is rock solid. We're leaning towards a Highlander for her next vehicle too because we've had such good luck w/ the 4R.

From what I read on edmunds and truedelta, that is actually a common issue on the older highlanders as well. Hopefully the current model doesn't have the issues (didn't see any reports it did).

[kydsid]

Originally Posted by Thrak

I wouldnt go that far.. after my expeirences with that engine in 2 different cars, I'll never own a Nissan again, much less a VQ35 based one. The low tensions rings cause the engine to burn oil like crazy. Its so bad that in the rev-up 350z's that Nissan had to come out and claim 1qt of oil every 1000miles is normal.... yeah right. The plugs are a nightmare to do, oil changes suck if its a FWD configuration, and the pcv valves gum up practically the same day you put it in because theres so much blow-by...

I'm adding oil every 2-3 weeks in my wifes Altima 3.5, and no leaks or drips anywhere to be seen... I cant wait to trade this lump in.

OTOH, my 4Runner is rock solid. We're leaning towards a Highlander for her next vehicle too because we've had such good luck w/ the 4R.

I'd put it the other way around. I'm sorry you have had a bad experience. But I've thrashed more than my share of VQ engines and had them keep ticking. Never found oil changes or plugs to be any harder than any other vehicle.

Plus the fact that a VQ engine has been on Ward's list of best engines damn near every year that list has come out and the reliability data you can get a sense that its a great series of engines. Not everyone of them is gonna be perfect though and I will gladly admit the VQ35DE is prone to shearing oil cosumption, but so are toyota's engines.

[Thrak]

Originally Posted by kydsid

Not everyone of them is gonna be perfect though and I will gladly admit the VQ35DE is prone to shearing oil cosumption, but so are toyota's engines.

Yeah, but toyota hasnt had to do thousands of engine replacements, causing them to change their oil consumption policy.



FWIW, its the only car I've worked on that required removal of the entire intake manifold to get to the rear plugs.

[Digs]

Originally Posted by Thrak

Yeah, but toyota hasnt had to do thousands of engine replacements, causing them to change their oil consumption policy.

No they just have the Prius that runs away in kills it operators and passengers.

[Digs]

I had a Murano for 3 years it's was an awsome vehicle, the CVT transmission kicked a-s. I traded it for VW Tourage which has been great but still live the Maurano.

[kydsid]

Originally Posted by Thrak

Yeah, but toyota hasnt had to do thousands of engine replacements, causing them to change their oil consumption policy.



FWIW, its the only car I've worked on that required removal of the entire intake manifold to get to the rear plugs.

Toyota also doesn't have a nimble sports car with a high reving torquee V6 that somehow makes everyone drive it into the ground. I think they could have told 350Z owners to go pound sand. Most of the complaints I see surround the 350Z and G35 owners, both cars prone to hard driving.

And I have had to remove the intake manifold on a Ford Taurus and Hyundai Sonata myself to do plug changes, so it certainly isn't the only one like that.

[Thrak]

Originally Posted by kydsid

Toyota also doesn't have a nimble sports car with a high reving torquee V6 that somehow makes everyone drive it into the ground. I think they could have told 350Z owners to go pound sand. Most of the complaints I see surround the 350Z and G35 owners, both cars prone to hard driving.

Thats true, toyota doesnt have ANY sports car now... I think they pushed that segment to Lexus.

When you put an engine in a sports car and tout its high revving engine, it should be expected to take it. To me, it points to either a lack of attention to detail or an 'IDGAF' attitude... either doesnt sit well with me, and when you throw in the 4-cyl issues they had (pre-cat substrate breaks apart and gets sucked back into the combustion chamber, scoring the cylinder and thus high oil consumption and lack of power), my overall view of Nissan drivetrains is pretty sour.

They've just had a lot of issues that make me go wtf... remember the titans blowing out rear diffs all over the place? I mean its kinda funny, but sad at the same time, when yet another Titan recall comes out and people rejoice that finally their truck isnt part one lol...

[Digs]

Originally Posted by Thrak

I wouldnt go that far.. after my expeirences with that engine in 2 different cars, I'll never own a Nissan again, much less a VQ35 based one. The low tensions rings cause the engine to burn oil like crazy. Its so bad that in the rev-up 350z's that Nissan had to come out and claim 1qt of oil every 1000miles is normal.... yeah right. The plugs are a nightmare to do, oil changes suck if its a FWD configuration, and the pcv valves gum up practically the same day you put it in because theres so much blow-by...

I'm adding oil every 2-3 weeks in my wifes Altima 3.5, and no leaks or drips anywhere to be seen... I cant wait to trade this lump in.

OTOH, my 4Runner is rock solid. We're leaning towards a Highlander for her next vehicle too because we've haJd such good luck w/ the 4R.

Hum I had a 07 with the 6spd used every day for work and went 5,000 miles on oil changes never noticed a drop low? I ran it so hard I needed tires every 10,000 miles! Traded it at 105,000 miles for my hummer.