Official SEC Football Thread 2011

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I DON'T know how ticketing works for home and away, not at all. I have only been to one SEC game.
But people who DO KNOW about it stated that it was a surprisingly small amount of tickets. Doesn't matter.
100,000 plus didn't help you guys enough to make the difference.
And when you say a field goal would have made the difference, I say NO, 4 missed field goals would have made
the difference. You can't prove a negative. If you want to be the superior team your fans made you out to be for two
weeks at every place anyone would listen, then you have to BEAT LSU. You can't say we were the better team
because only one more kick would have given us a tie and two would have meant the win.
The game is timed. You have 60 minutes to get it done. What you might have done if you had had an 18 minute
4th quarter or another down in OT is irrelevant. Your coach made his choices, his players made their plays
and you need to live with the result. And don't be too mad at me, this is fun for me. I had to listen to the pundits
and the botls for weeks go on and on, "fixing that for me" in replies, all the people said LSU was going down.
But they didn't, and the WAY they made sure they won exposed what I term a weakness in your team.
You and I can have fun, and I hope this IS fun for you, but I am not making this up. We have superior balance
through superior special teams. BAMA is awesome, we just did what was necessary to beat em.

[rizzle]

Talking to you is like talking to my 2 year olds. LSU has better special teams than us. Unfortunately for us, it came down to that. Shouldn't have, but did. That's the way it goes sometimes.

But having better special teams, doesn't make you more "balanced", it just gives you an advantage in one of the three phases of the game.

Tickets... LSU's allotment was 7000, That's about the average number that SEC teams give/get. I don't know where you're getting your numbers from, other than heresay and I don't operate on heresay. West Virginia gave you 5000. Our stadium is for Bama fans and I'd imagine LSU's stadium is for LSU fans. I'll see if I can dig up what y'all gave us last year, as if it matters, but I'd hate to be all "homeristic" and not debate you with facts, which you seem to not understand anyway.

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Originally Posted by rizzle

Talking to you is like talking to my 2 year olds. LSU has better special teams than us. Unfortunately for us, it came down to that. Shouldn't have, but did. That's the way it goes sometimes.

But having better special teams, doesn't make you more "balanced", it just gives you an advantage in one of the three phases of the game.

Tickets... LSU's allotment was 7000, That's about the average number that SEC teams give/get. I'll see if I can dig up what y'all gave us last year, as if it matters.

I am guessing the 2 year old wins a lot.

It doesn't matter about the tickets, I said I didn't know and I don't. My point was I thought that your fans
would make some kind of difference with the huge differential. Like I said, I saw LSU-Vandy in 1983 and that
is my experience in SEC stadiums.

My argument, from the two-year old perspective, is that I felt like the two teams were basically
even in offense and defense and LSU had a significant edge on special teams....If the teams are even
and one has an edge in one phase of the game, that team is more balanced because the other two phases
basically cancel each other out. The only way I allow myself to say "significant edge" is because we made all
our field goals and Bama missed 4. We consistently punted you guys into your own 10-20 yard line
over and over. I hate it for you, too, that the kicking game decided the outcome. But again, from
what I hear from Bama fans, you were the better team, so it needn't ever have come down to that.
But I will stop badgering you, you can't be swayed by facts or stats and I am not an a$$hole, just a
fan of the winner.

[rizzle]

Originally Posted by OLS

I am guessing the 2 year old wins a lot.

It doesn't matter about the tickets, I said I didn't know and I don't. My point was I thought that your fans
would make some kind of difference with the huge differential.

My argument, from the two-year old perspective, is that I felt like the two teams were basically dead
even in offense and defense and LSU had a significant edge on special teams....If the teams are even
and one has an edge in one phase of the game, that team is more balanced because the other two phases
basically cancel each other out. The only way I allow myself to say "significant edge" is because we made all
our field goals and Bama missed 4. We consistently punted you guys into your own 10-20 yard line
over and over. I hate it for you, too, that the kicking game decided the outcome. But again, from
what I hear from Bama fans, you were the better team, so it needn't ever have come down to that.
But I will stop badgering you, you can't be swayed by facts or stats and I am not an a$$hole, just a
fan of the winner.

I knew going into the game that your special teams were better. Significantly. I don't believe it should have come to that, but it did. That's my opinion, nothing factual about it. I seem to be the only one providing any stats and facts, by the way.

You sure about that bolded part?

[rizzle]

Best I can find, the SEC mandates at least 5000 tickets be given to the visiting team. I know we have "agreements" with UT and Auburn to provide a bigger number each year, along the lines of 9000.

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Originally Posted by rizzle

But having better special teams, doesn't make you more "balanced", it just gives you an advantage in one of the three phases of the game.

Wait, that's exactly what it means. Bama is "lopsided" in it's glaring inability to affect the outcome of
a game through kicking. You are a super-power, but less balanced than LSU which can score in three ways
without much effort. You can score TWO ways without much effort. I am not saying you can't score
in the kicking game, I am saying it has to be a chip shot.

Nah, I am not an a$$hole, just mis-understood. WHo am I kidding, I am a huge a$$hole, ask anyone who knows
me. But I guess I am not TRYING to be one here.

[rizzle]

I'll say this. You'd make an absolutley perfect Auburn fan.

[rizzle]

And I didn't mention it before, because I was refuting your outrageous claim that LSU was way more balanced, but Matthieu is a punk. Pure punk. So there's that, too.

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Originally Posted by rizzle

I'll say this. You'd make an absolutley perfect Auburn fan.

But I wouldn't kill a centuries old oak tree with poison.