Liga Privada

[T.G]

Just because other manufacturers have broadleaf right now doesn't mean that it's the same leaf as what DE is using.

In fact, I can tell you quite assuredly, that it's not.

The tobaccos, the capas (wrapper) in particular, that DE uses are very specific to certain seeds and only handled by a limited number of growers. Furthermore, there is a certain style of fermentation that they require to meet the criteria to be used for those cigars.

It's not a ploy, there really is a lack of useable LP tobacco right now and Jon, Marvin and Saka are simply not willing to make the cigars in a substandard fashion or change things just to fill shelves.

Jon is a good friend, I talk to him often, he ain't any happier about the leaf situation than you are.

PS: T-52 capa isn't a broadleaf, it's a habano seed. It's exclusive to DE and the farm that they have on contract. No one else has it.

[neoflex]

Thanks for the insight and that is the kind of feedback I was looking for and by no means was I trying to make this a conspiracy theory type thread. Just trying to fill in the blanks in my head.
I know that each manufacturer has their own processes and use certain seeds for similar leaf grown in a region but I was just trying to make sense in my head why they have had such a hard time getting the yields needed when it seems so many others are producing sticks with wrapper from the same region especially since it seems that so many new sticks as of late are sporting Connecticut Broadleaf as a wrapper. I know the Pepins have a very high standard too and I would figure they would be facing the same issue but I guess the difference must be in the seed.

[T.G]

Originally Posted by neoflex

Thanks for the insight and that is the kind of feedback I was looking for and by no means was I trying to make this a conspiracy theory type thread. Just trying to fill in the blanks in my head.
I know that each manufacturer has their own processes and use certain seeds for similar leaf grown in a region but I was just trying to make sense in my head why they have had such a hard time getting the yields needed when it seems so many others are producing sticks with wrapper from the same region especially since it seems that so many new sticks as of late are sporting Connecticut Broadleaf as a wrapper. I know the Pepins have a very high standard too and I would figure they would be facing the same issue but I guess the difference must be in the seed.

See, that's just it - new. They can use what is out there now and create something with it. For the Ligas currently on the market, they are committed to a specific blend with specific tobaccos. Changing something isn't an option.

Seed, farm, weather, how it's fermented, all of this plays a part to make a finished leaf different. If the Pepins were using this same tobacco, grown on the same farm, processed the same way as DE, then they would be faced with the same issues, but they aren't using that same tobacco. They are using a tobacco with only, at most, a few things in common, but being from the same original genetic lineage, the same name is used to describe it to the public in the releases.