Did Larussa Cheat?

Starscream · 04-24-2011, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook

I don't see it as cheating. They both have access to the same information. LaRussa decided to not start his original pitcher knowing that the game could possibly be delayed with the weather. Many managers have done the same thing over the years by starting a long reliever. A manager has the right to change his players up to the point of them taking the field without penalty of losing that player for the game.

No they didn't. That's the problem. Umpires told Dusty one thing; they told La Russa another.

Starscream · 04-24-2011, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02

No, he didn't cheat. He took advantage of the rule. Baseball should change the rule.

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Originally Posted by Starscream

Once again, no Reds or Cards fans vote on this poll.

You weren't supposed to vote. I won't tell anyone, Dan. Oh wait, I just did.

chippewastud79 · 04-24-2011, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream

You weren't supposed to vote. I won't tell anyone, Dan. Oh wait, I just did.

You know Dan doesn't actually read other posts, he just makes his own.

forgop · 04-24-2011, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream

No they didn't. That's the problem. Umpires told Dusty one thing; they told La Russa another.

So what? To act as though he cheated seems to implicate that the other team had no means of communication. If you think they showed up to the stadium with no sense of what the weather was going to do and had no means of monitoring it throughout the entire time they're there, you're very naive.

Starscream · 04-24-2011, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by forgop

So what? To act as though he cheated seems to implicate that the other team had no means of communication. If you think they showed up to the stadium with no sense of what the weather was going to do and had no means of monitoring it throughout the entire time they're there, you're very naive.

It's not the end of the world, Duane. Don't get all worked up over it. Geez.

forgop · 04-24-2011, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream

It's not the end of the world, Duane. Don't get all worked up over it. Geez.

I'm not worked up as I have no interest on either side. I'm just failing to comprehend how the guy cheated in any way.

It seems logical to believe that you do because you're the one asking the question, right?

Starscream · 04-24-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by forgop

I'm not worked up as I have no interest on either side. I'm just failing to comprehend how the guy cheated in any way.

It seems logical to believe that you do because you're the one asking the question, right?

Yes, I'm biased a bit. Cheating or no cheating, it was a bit shady. I might be down with Dan's suggestion about changing the rule, but I'm not convinced a rule change would be in order for this one incident. But once again, read my post again which I have quoted below.

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Originally Posted by Starscream

I just thought it would be an interesting topic for discussion.

bobarian · 04-24-2011, 02:15 PM

Seems like you've made up you mind and are looking for validation and not discussion. 14 people voted negatory and yet you still seem determined to cry foul.

Starscream · 04-24-2011, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bobarian

Seems like you've made up you mind and are looking for validation and not discussion. 14 people voted negatory and yet you still seem determined to cry foul.

Did you notice that I didn't vote yes in this poll? I'm not that determined.

If only internet retailers had as high quality sticks as B&Ms...

icehog3 · 04-24-2011, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream

No they didn't. That's the problem. Umpires told Dusty one thing; they told La Russa another.

So then it's on the Umps, right?

NCRadioMan · 04-24-2011, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

So then it's on the Umps, right?

It's obviously one of the largest conspiracy's ever in the history of baseball and the only scandal that rival's this can only be the Black Sox ordeal.

Starscream · 04-24-2011, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

It's obviously one of the largest conspiracy's ever in the history of baseball and the only scandal that rival's this can only be the Black Sox ordeal.

At least the Reds won that year.

St. Lou Stu · 04-24-2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

It's obviously one of the largest conspiracy's ever in the history of baseball and the only scandal that rival's this can only be the Black Sox ordeal.

This calls for a Congressional Inquiry!

Starscream · 04-24-2011, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

So then it's on the Umps, right?

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St. Louis manager Tony La Russa was asked if the Cardinals considered not starting the game, given the forecast.

Home field advantage has its perks, I guess.

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