Responsibility to Central America.

[massphatness]

Buying Cuban cigars doesn't bother me as long as they taste good, and not like a salt shaker. (Think Sancho Panza)

[SvilleKid]

Originally Posted by massphatness

Buying Cuban cigars doesn't bother me as long as they taste good, and not like a salt shaker. (Think Sancho Panza)

Oh poo on you, you old rouge! What's wrong with a little salt!

Seriously, though, Sancho Bellicosa's are one of my very favorites. That was actually the first two CC boxes I ever "acquired"!

As to Central America, I doubt the cigar growers hold enough sway to make the governments that are corrupt even look their way. If they did, you can bet they would try to nationalize the properties and companies like their buddy HC!

[alfredo_buscatti]

Originally Posted by SvilleKid

Oh poo on you, you old rouge! What's wrong with a little salt!

Seriously, though, Sancho Bellicosa's are one of my very favorites. That was actually the first two CC boxes I ever "acquired"!

As to Central America, I doubt the cigar growers hold enough sway to make the governments that are corrupt even look their way. If they did, you can bet they would try to nationalize the properties and companies like their buddy HC!

Exactly! It is heartbreaking, what goes on in the poor nations with corrupt governments. In my mind, however, what goes on in these countries is not that different from what goes on in the US. Presidents and others with political power, are screened by the rich, and they ensure that no one is elected who won't keep them rich. Then these approved pols are served up to the electorate.

In third world countries the worldwide plutocracy is just more blatant.

I live in DR and have been to both Nicaragua and Honduras, and like one fellow inmate pointed out, DR is a very different case, not only is way more stable (free elections since 1961) but it's clearly more prosperous than those countries (Nicaragua is the continent's second poorest country after Haiti, Honduras the third), my point being that the income the governments get from exports (like cigars or tourism) can indeed improve the life conditions of the people if they are used right, and the difference in poverty and quality of infrastructure between DR and Central America is a proof of that.
Clearly, the dollars from your cigars and tourism have contributed in some way to slash the level of poverty in this country by half in the last 50 years (according to the UN), and not only that, if you've been to any cigar factory in DR, you'll see that the conditions they work in are more than satisfactory and no comparison with Chinese workers can be made, their salaries are twice as high as their peers in Central America but that obviously doesn't mean Dominican cigars cost double, so yes progress can be done if the government invest in its people even a little of the hard earned money you guys indirectly give them when you buy a stogie, and no, an improvement in their quality of life doesn't have to mean you'll end up paying more.
Well that was my first post in the Asylum, gracias amigos!

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by alfredo_buscatti

Exactly! It is heartbreaking, what goes on in the poor nations with corrupt governments. In my mind, however, what goes on in these countries is not that different from what goes on in the US. Presidents and others with political power, are screened by the rich, and they ensure that no one is elected who won't keep them rich. Then these approved pols are served up to the electorate.

In third world countries the worldwide plutocracy is just more blatant.

And, we're done here.