E-85 Not worth the effort!!

NCRadioMan · 04-20-2011, 03:24 PM

Yep, another government perpetuated racket that does nothing good for the consumer. Shocking!

emopunker2004 · 04-20-2011, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

Yep, another government perpetuated racket that does nothing good for the consumer. Shocking!

captain53 · 04-20-2011, 07:18 PM

E-85 is just one more scam. Corn Farmers are cleaning house with it while food crops take the sidelines. Just a little note of interest the Corn that is grown for E-85 production is a hybrid variety for just that purpose and has little if any food value.

Stevez · 04-22-2011, 07:14 AM

As a new Toyota Tundra owner with Flex Fuel, I say ditto to everything here. E85 is a scam and not worth it in any way. Not sure that there is any harm in having it, but really wish I had looked into it in more detail before I bought it. Guess it doesn't hurt, but there certainly is no benefit whatsoever.

04-22-2011, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by captain53

E-85 is just one more scam. Corn Farmers are cleaning house with it while food crops take the sidelines. Just a little note of interest the Corn that is grown for E-85 production is a hybrid variety for just that purpose and has little if any food value.

Farmers gotta make money, too. With the oil companies cleaning house like they do, do you blame them?

One of the "selling points" is that it purportedly reduces dependency on foreign oil, as it is produced domestically.

Stephen · 04-22-2011, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanger

Farmers gotta make money, too. With the oil companies cleaning house like they do, do you blame them?

One of the "selling points" is that it purportedly reduces dependency on foreign oil, as it is produced domestically.

Why do farmers roll the bills of their ballcaps so tight?

So their cap doesn't get knocked off sticking their head in the mailbox looking for the check from the government.

It's mind-boggling how much the farming industry is subsidized in the United States and corn by far is the biggest benefactor.

hotreds · 04-22-2011, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Why do farmers roll the bills of their ballcaps so tight?

So their cap doesn't get knocked off sticking their head in the mailbox looking for the check from the government.

It's mind-boggling how much the farming industry is subsidized in the United States and corn by far is the biggest benefactor.

Actually, most of the govt $$ go to big agri-businesses and "gentleman" farmers like Ted Turner. Another reason to do away with all farm subsidies!

Stephen · 04-22-2011, 01:09 PM

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Actually, most of the govt $$ go to big agri-businesses and "gentleman" farmers like Ted Turner. Another reason to do away with all farm subsidies!

The way that farm subsidies are handled in this country is completely upside down. It'd be akin to Warren Buffet getting food stamps.

treatneggy · 04-22-2011, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanger

Farmers gotta make money, too. With the oil companies cleaning house like they do, do you blame them?

One of the "selling points" is that it purportedly reduces dependency on foreign oil, as it is produced domestically.

Unfortunately, it takes foreign oil to power the tractors and trucks to plant, harvest and then transport the corn to the processing plants. How much diesel gets burned for each gallon of ethanol that's produced?

SvilleKid · 04-22-2011, 12:49 PM

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Unfortunately, it takes foreign oil to power the tractors and trucks to plant, harvest and then transport the corn to the processing plants. How much diesel gets burned for each gallon of ethanol that's produced?

Oh, it's already a known fact that it takes more energy to produce a gallon of E85 than that gallon of E-85 reproduces! That kind of circle logic escapes me.

However, my main post to start this thread was to point out the difference in fuel economy between E-85 and gasoline, and how it was not cost effective to run E-85 because the fuel economy was much different than the price difference. And, to kick myself for NOT having done the homework before hand to discover that. By posting the thread, I hope to alert others to that situation, so they won't make the same mistake I made.

I don't think we are stepping on anyone's toes by expanding the thread, but let's keep it civil and make sure we don't stray into anything political that might get the thread axed. Thanks for the comments so far.

hotreds · 04-22-2011, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

Yep, another government perpetuated racket that does nothing good for the consumer. Shocking!

I like the way you think, brother! Corn should be used for food, not fuel!

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