Manny retires!

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty

Manny didn't lie to congress like big Mac and RP, you didn't mention that in your post. He isn't going to be in the HoF, but at least he's always been consistent with his douche baggery. And I think the media loved him personally, there was never any shortage of news

I wasn't addressing him lying to Congress, I conceded that Palmeiro wasn't getting into the HOF anytime soon (if ever). In the end, both Palmeiro and Ramirez were caught and in doing so severely tarnished their careers.