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[chippewastud79]

Originally Posted by loki

exploiting them? i'll tell ya what, you pay me 58 million and you exploit the hell out of me.

Whether people want to agree with the priciple or not, the players make far more money for the owners than they are compensated for. Ticket prices and revenues continue to rise and players salary have not kept up. Now the owners complain that they need more money to build new stadiums (paid for by tax money and giving them the ability to raise prices on everything) and to keep from taking a loss. Owners won't show their books to show the deficit that they have, something has to give. Without the players, there is no product.

[loki]

Originally Posted by chippewastud79

Whether people want to agree with the priciple or not, the players make far more money for the owners than they are compensated for. Ticket prices and revenues continue to rise and players salary have not kept up. Now the owners complain that they need more money to build new stadiums (paid for by tax money and giving them the ability to raise prices on everything) and to keep from taking a loss. Owners won't show their books to show the deficit that they have, something has to give. Without the players, there is no product.

and i make more money for my boss then i'm compensated for...this is not their unique and special situation it's the way of the world.

also, without the fans there is no league

[chippewastud79]

Originally Posted by loki

and i make more money for my boss then i'm compensated for...this is not their unique and special situation it's the way of the world.

Well when people start paying millions and billions of dollars to show up to watch teachers in the class room or fire fighters fight a fire or my wife crunch numbers, then everyone else might have a bit more bargaining power. I'm not saying its right, its just the way people pay to watch these guys play.

Its the owners who are saying they don't make enough money, and if they don't get more, everyone else is without a job and they will keep all the revenue. The lockout works out immensely well for the owners, they still have TV contracts and such that will get paid regardless and they won't have to pay a single dollar of salary to players or anyone else for that matter. Nothing like bringing in revenue with no overhead.

[chippewastud79]

Originally Posted by loki

also, without the fans there is no league

The fans will be there whenever it is settled. And they will pay the ticket prices the owners demand and buy merchandise and beer at those games. Television contracts aren't going to be dropped like they were for hockey . Unlike any other sport, football has the fan base to absorb owners stupidity for now (unfortunately the owners know this). Fans will pay money for teams who meddle in obscurity for years, a few months of this won't lose enough fans to effect the league as a whole. If there is a full season lockout (unlikely), then you may see a decline in viewership, but it will rebound much faster than hockey or baseball suffered during their labor disputes.