Advice for B&M owners anyone?

[Thammy]

Originally Posted by msayewich

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I wish we up in Canada can still walk into the humidors and look at the products instead of in books.

Is this unique to Ontario? I am from Alberta and I still walk into the Humidor at my local B & M.

Reading these makes me very thankful for my local place, these are some horror stories here. My local owner went as far as to offer to phone my university to vouch about my pipes not being for drugs when I got searched and reported. The only problem I have is me being young and considered immature except that is from other customers and not the owners.

Mind you one tobacco store here hires anyone, regardless if they know anything about cigars at all. I went there once only to be greeted by a 18 year old girl who complained about the smell of the humi and told me to hurry up. Tobacco lovers only please!

[357]

Originally Posted by Thammy

Is this unique to Ontario? I am from Alberta and I still walk into the Humidor at my local B & M.

Reading these makes me very thankful for my local place, these are some horror stories here. My local owner went as far as to offer to phone my university to vouch about my pipes not being for drugs when I got searched and reported. The only problem I have is me being young and considered immature except that is from other customers and not the owners.

Mind you one tobacco store here hires anyone, regardless if they know anything about cigars at all. I went there once only to be greeted by a 18 year old girl who complained about the smell of the humi and told me to hurry up. Tobacco lovers only please!

I'm not sure if it is Ontario only. I'm guessing so. They even have plastic flaps to cover the cigarettes (on the shelves) at gas stations. It's mind boggling. Apparently it is illegal to see a tobacco product in person before you buy it. All exterior signage had to be removed as well. The only exceptions were grandfathered in where cigar or tobacco was in the name of the business.

[Thammy]

Originally Posted by 357

I'm not sure if it is Ontario only. I'm guessing so. They even have plastic flaps to cover the cigarettes (on the shelves) at gas stations. It's mind boggling. Apparently it is illegal to see a tobacco product in person before you buy it. All exterior signage had to be removed as well. The only exceptions were grandfathered in where cigar or tobacco was in the name of the business.

Weird, I know they can't advertise any. Yeah when I worked at a gas station I could not show the tobacco or advertise it, yet in a Irish Pub they had a cigarettes ad. Oh well. Maybe I should figure out what these laws are exactly.

[weetone]

Originally Posted by Thammy

Weird, I know they can't advertise any. Yeah when I worked at a gas station I could not show the tobacco or advertise it, yet in a Irish Pub they had a cigarettes ad. Oh well. Maybe I should figure out what these laws are exactly.

All tobacco products must be covered in any store that sells them, except for stores that are specifically designated as a tobacconist. However, if you're a tobacconist, you are required to black out your front window so that nobody can see in.

The law is the Tobacco Reduction Act - you can view some information on it here:http://www.health.alberta.ca/initiat...reduction.html

As for the advertising, you can still advertise cigarettes in places where everybody is over the age of 18. So, bars are off the hook. As far as I am aware, magazines where readership is over 80% adults can also have some limited advertising.

Finally, you mentioned a local shop that had a young gal working. Burlington on Whyte is the only place to go in the city.

Also, for the guys who mentioned people following you into the humidor. If you're in Canada, as far as I am aware, it is the law that customers not enter unescorted. What's more, you are not actually allowed (by law) to touch the sticks. Employees have got to touch them until you have paid for them. That is the case as far as I'm aware, so if you're North of the 49th, keep that in mind.

[Thammy]

Originally Posted by weetone

All tobacco products must be covered in any store that sells them, except for stores that are specifically designated as a tobacconist. However, if you're a tobacconist, you are required to black out your front window so that nobody can see in.

The law is the Tobacco Reduction Act - you can view some information on it here:http://www.health.alberta.ca/initiat...reduction.html

As for the advertising, you can still advertise cigarettes in places where everybody is over the age of 18. So, bars are off the hook. As far as I am aware, magazines where readership is over 80% adults can also have some limited advertising.

Finally, you mentioned a local shop that had a young gal working. Burlington on Whyte is the only place to go in the city.

Also, for the guys who mentioned people following you into the humidor. If you're in Canada, as far as I am aware, it is the law that customers not enter unescorted. What's more, you are not actually allowed (by law) to touch the sticks. Employees have got to touch them until you have paid for them. That is the case as far as I'm aware, so if you're North of the 49th, keep that in mind.

Burlington on Whyte is my regular place to go. The place I am talking about is in Saint Albert, where I lived previously. And the laws you posted clarify it for me, thanks.

[replicant_argent]

Originally Posted by weetone

All tobacco products must be covered in any store that sells them, except for stores that are specifically designated as a tobacconist. However, if you're a tobacconist, you are required to black out your front window so that nobody can see in.

The law is the Tobacco Reduction Act - you can view some information on it here:http://www.health.alberta.ca/initiat...reduction.html

As for the advertising, you can still advertise cigarettes in places where everybody is over the age of 18. So, bars are off the hook. As far as I am aware, magazines where readership is over 80% adults can also have some limited advertising.

Finally, you mentioned a local shop that had a young gal working. Burlington on Whyte is the only place to go in the city.

Also, for the guys who mentioned people following you into the humidor. If you're in Canada, as far as I am aware, it is the law that customers not enter unescorted. What's more, you are not actually allowed (by law) to touch the sticks. Employees have got to touch them until you have paid for them. That is the case as far as I'm aware, so if you're North of the 49th, keep that in mind.

I gotta ask. How is that pile of nonsense bill working out for you folks? Have they measured and "real" impact? In my opinion, it is about as archaic an idea as a chador, and mere pc self-flagellation.

[357]

Originally Posted by replicant_argent

I gotta ask. How is that pile of nonsense bill working out for you folks? Have they measured and "real" impact? In my opinion, it is about as archaic an idea as a chador, and mere pc self-flagellation.

Can't argue logic vs bleeding-heart liberal policies. Adult human beings can't possibly be able to make informed choices on legal products that might negatively affect their health. Such responsibility can only be entrusted to the government.

[jesseboston81]

Originally Posted by Thammy

Reading these makes me very thankful for my local place, these are some horror stories here.

I never knew how fortunate I was to have my B&M of choice until I read this thread. Honestly, at that shop I've never experienced any of the complaints that others are reporting here. Employees at my B&M are extremely knowledgeable and passionate about cigars, and seem to know just when to leave me alone to browse and when to spend twenty minutes walking me through the shop, chatting about my tastes, and giving me personalized recommendations.