The people at Auburn really do grow the best dope.

TideRoll · 12-14-2008, 07:50 AM

I hate to even appear to be rubbing salt in a wound. It is probably very apparent to many Auburn fans by now, so I'm not giving any Alabama secrets away when I say problems on the Plains start with one individual. I'm not talking about Nick Saban, though he's not helping. Auburn football will be in a continual state of struggle until Bobby Lowder goes away. That goob and his lackeys are going to get Auburn into accreditation trouble yet, and simply because a guy runs a bank doesn't mean he can run a University or an athletic department.

On the bright side, Chizik is a defensive-minded coach and he is familiar with a lot of the high school coaches in the region.

rizzle · 12-15-2008, 10:17 AM

No hang on to them, it gives me something to look forward to next year.

This smells like desperation to me. And TideRoll is telling you the same thing I've told you before regarding Lowder. Throw Jimmy Rane in there too.

You know, it was time for Tubs to go. Not because he was a bad coach, but because it was a bad marriage destined for failure. I can't believe, though, that this is what Lowder had in mind when he dropped the axe. Obviously Chizik had success during his stint on the Plains and in Austin, but I think the situations at Iowa State and Auburn are comparable, except Auburn has enjoyed some measure of success through the years. You see the job he has done at ISU.

Quite honestly, I think you're in trouble. Like him or not, Saban owns the state. Alabama is a very trendy choice for out of state recruits right now as well. The sleeping giant has been awakened. Auburn's past two classes have been weak and this one is turning out to be a disaster. If you want to know what five or six down years of recruiting will get you take a look at Alabama 2002-2007. It's not fun my friend, trust me on that one. I think Lowder thought a big name would come running at the opportunity and badly miscalculated the situation.

Chizik may turn out to be great, time will tell. But ask yourself two questions-
1) If you were an AD hiring a coach and you had two candidates, Tubs and Chizik, who would you hire?
2) Do you think Auburn is better off today than it was?

If you can answer yes to both those without lying, you've got your man.

Roll Tide.

rizzle · 12-15-2008, 10:31 AM

Oh...minor correction...Ole Miss grows the best dope.

http://www.druglibrary.org/olsen/MEDICAL/george.html

http://the-kinder-side.tripod.com/

SeanGAR · 12-15-2008, 10:54 AM

As an ISU cyclone I'm glad to see that hacker leave. Seriously. WTF is Auburn thinking .. it isn't as if he has been successful for the cyclones!

TideRoll · 12-15-2008, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanGAR

As an ISU cyclone I'm glad to see that hacker leave. Seriously. WTF is Auburn thinking .. it isn't as if he has been successful for the cyclones!

I think about 75% of the Auburn fan base is asking the same thing, and around 95% of Alabama fans. Under Saban, relentless, extraordinary recruiting is more or less expected and he's not going to be stopped, but Turner Gill was the one guy out there who Alabama fans though might have been able to at least slow him down slightly. The racial charges surrounding this are flat out ugly and not representative of the state or even the high majority of Auburn fans, and I say that as an Alabama fan. The guy was the DC on two teams that went something like 25 or something and zero. He won the assistant coach of the year one of those years. I sincerely hope that and his familiarity with coaches in the region are the reasons he was hired. Not because I wish him or Auburn any success at the expense of Alabama but because I'd like to think that my home state would not have such powerful people who are that idiotic.

The PR beatdown Auburn is taking right now is severe even among their own fan base. If Auburn can't slow down the flood, this is going to set them back five or ten years.

I didn't know you were a Cyclone. One word of advice: get your folks to hire Turner Gill. In an ironic way, this may work out to his advantage: he knows that part of the country, obviously, and I think he is going places.

DrDubzz · 12-15-2008, 03:36 PM

I was happy with Chizik came to Texas, and happier when he left

good luck

12-15-2008, 04:35 PM

Well I understand the man has Auburn history, and SEC history,and if he does anything similar to what he did here in 2004, we're in good shape. I do understand Iowa state isn't high up on the Big 12 Depth chart, but the same could be said of Auburn this year. I think he'll have a lot more talent at Auburn, but I've decided (as I've never played American Football) attitude makes a big difference. Auburn had no Attitude this past year. If we can change that, we'll be better than 5-7. Are we gonna pull a 'bama and go 6-6 one year and then 12-1 the next? Doubt it. He has a lot of doubters. I don't think gill turner didn't get hired because he is black, I think it's because he has a white wife, and nothing pisses me off more than that. Time will tell if the decision was right... Hello Alabama record of coaches since gene Stallings, here we come...

12-14-2008, 07:50 AM	#1
TideRoll It is what it is. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: North of the 'Ham Posts: 154 Trading: (5)	Re: The people at Auburn really do grow the best d I hate to even appear to be rubbing salt in a wound. It is probably very apparent to many Auburn fans by now, so I'm not giving any Alabama secrets away when I say problems on the Plains start with one individual. I'm not talking about Nick Saban, though he's not helping. Auburn football will be in a continual state of struggle until Bobby Lowder goes away. That goob and his lackeys are going to get Auburn into accreditation trouble yet, and simply because a guy runs a bank doesn't mean he can run a University or an athletic department. On the bright side, Chizik is a defensive-minded coach and he is familiar with a lot of the high school coaches in the region. __________________ “If you believe in yourself and have dedication and pride, and never quit, you'll be a winner. The price of victory is high but so are the rewards.” - Paul W. Bryant

12-15-2008, 10:17 AM	#2
rizzle Order Restored Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: st pete, fl Posts: 2,679 Trading: (23)	Re: The people at Auburn really do grow the best d No hang on to them, it gives me something to look forward to next year. This smells like desperation to me. And TideRoll is telling you the same thing I've told you before regarding Lowder. Throw Jimmy Rane in there too. You know, it was time for Tubs to go. Not because he was a bad coach, but because it was a bad marriage destined for failure. I can't believe, though, that this is what Lowder had in mind when he dropped the axe. Obviously Chizik had success during his stint on the Plains and in Austin, but I think the situations at Iowa State and Auburn are comparable, except Auburn has enjoyed some measure of success through the years. You see the job he has done at ISU. Quite honestly, I think you're in trouble. Like him or not, Saban owns the state. Alabama is a very trendy choice for out of state recruits right now as well. The sleeping giant has been awakened. Auburn's past two classes have been weak and this one is turning out to be a disaster. If you want to know what five or six down years of recruiting will get you take a look at Alabama 2002-2007. It's not fun my friend, trust me on that one. I think Lowder thought a big name would come running at the opportunity and badly miscalculated the situation. Chizik may turn out to be great, time will tell. But ask yourself two questions- 1) If you were an AD hiring a coach and you had two candidates, Tubs and Chizik, who would you hire? 2) Do you think Auburn is better off today than it was? If you can answer yes to both those without lying, you've got your man. Roll Tide.

12-15-2008, 10:31 AM	#3
rizzle Order Restored Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: st pete, fl Posts: 2,679 Trading: (23)	Re: The people at Auburn really do grow the best d Oh...minor correction...Ole Miss grows the best dope. http://www.druglibrary.org/olsen/MEDICAL/george.html http://the-kinder-side.tripod.com/

12-15-2008, 10:54 AM	#4
SeanGAR Crotchety Geezer Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Radford VA Posts: 911 Trading: (3)	Re: The people at Auburn really do grow the best d As an ISU cyclone I'm glad to see that hacker leave. Seriously. WTF is Auburn thinking .. it isn't as if he has been successful for the cyclones! __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?

12-15-2008, 03:36 PM	#6
DrDubzz Formerly RX2010 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: England Posts: 2,203 Trading: (34)	Re: The people at Auburn really do grow the best d I was happy with Chizik came to Texas, and happier when he left good luck

12-15-2008, 04:35 PM	#7
theycallmedan'lboone Guest Posts: n/a	Re: The people at Auburn really do grow the best d Well I understand the man has Auburn history, and SEC history,and if he does anything similar to what he did here in 2004, we're in good shape. I do understand Iowa state isn't high up on the Big 12 Depth chart, but the same could be said of Auburn this year. I think he'll have a lot more talent at Auburn, but I've decided (as I've never played American Football) attitude makes a big difference. Auburn had no Attitude this past year. If we can change that, we'll be better than 5-7. Are we gonna pull a 'bama and go 6-6 one year and then 12-1 the next? Doubt it. He has a lot of doubters. I don't think gill turner didn't get hired because he is black, I think it's because he has a white wife, and nothing pisses me off more than that. Time will tell if the decision was right... Hello Alabama record of coaches since gene Stallings, here we come...