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Old 01-02-2011, 02:06 PM   #1
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The cutter looks kinda cheap and the backstop is lame. I don't know if you could call me a noob for it but I've never seen a cutter with a backstop
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The cutter looks kinda cheap and the backstop is lame. I don't know if you could call me a noob for it but I've never seen a cutter with a backstop
They have their uses. I keep a Liga Privada No. 9 metal cutter w/ backstop in my glovebox for cutting cigars while driving. If you have to cut a cigar in low light or have to cut a bunch of cigars in a hurry - like at my brothers wedding, I brought only the LP9 cutter for that reason, I was cutting and handing out cigars pretty quickly, and, being California, we had to be outside the hotel, which wasn't all that well lit at night. Also nice when you're bobbing around on a boat or something, no worries about miscutting due to a pitch or roll right when you squeeze. etc...
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They have their uses. I keep a Liga Privada No. 9 metal cutter w/ backstop in my glovebox for cutting cigars while driving. If you have to cut a cigar in low light or have to cut a bunch of cigars in a hurry - like at my brothers wedding, I brought only the LP9 cutter for that reason, I was cutting and handing out cigars pretty quickly, and, being California, we had to be outside the hotel, which wasn't all that well lit at night. Also nice when you're bobbing around on a boat or something, no worries about miscutting due to a pitch or roll right when you squeeze. etc...
Never would have thought about that. Great points, I usually smoke on the deck so I got nothing but time
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The cutter looks kinda cheap and the backstop is lame. I don't know if you could call me a noob for it but I've never seen a cutter with a backstop

Time will tell. Everyone claims that their cutters are self sharpening. But it takes several months before that claim is found to be true or not
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Why are the Palio cutters sort of a cult cutter? Are they that much better than a Xikar?
Because they ain't cheap.
"Better" is relative to one's preferences. They are both quality cutters, but they are different.

The Xikar is basically a set of encapsulated cigar scissors. It's apparent by your earlier comment that you have used them, so I don't need to go on about them.

The Palio is a bit more innovative in the design. It's a dual guillotine, but it only has two parts (two blades that move against each other), as opposed to the typical three (two blades which move inside a body). It's slim, it's lightweight, it makes very precise, clean, sharp cut, it includes a built in cigar rest, the owner of the company, Mark ("OpusEx") is a very personable, stand up guy who interfaces often with the other S/BOTLs on the boards and elsewhere.
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"Better" is relative to one's preferences. They are both quality cutters, but they are different.

The Xikar is basically a set of encapsulated cigar scissors. It's apparent by your earlier comment that you have used them, so I don't need to go on about them.

The Palio is a bit more innovative in the design. It's a dual guillotine, but it only has two parts (two blades that move against each other), as opposed to the typical three (two blades which move inside a body). It's slim, it's lightweight, it makes very precise, clean, sharp cut, it includes a built in cigar rest, the owner of the company, Mark ("OpusEx") is a very personable, stand up guy who interfaces often with the other S/BOTLs on the boards and elsewhere.

Thank you, Adam.

But you don't say if you own a Palio? Obviously, you've used one. Do you think they are worth the dough?
In any case, described succinctly and easy enough for my tiny little brain to absorb.
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Thank you, Adam.

But you don't say if you own a Palio? Obviously, you've used one. Do you think they are worth the dough?
In any case, described succinctly and easy enough for my tiny little brain to absorb.
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I can't speak for Adam.

I think the basic black ones are most definitely worth the dough. The value of the special finishes really depends on how much it's worth to you. That is just cosmetic. I own multiple Palios and I can't say enough good things about them. Xikar makes a great cutter but I don't care for the ergonomics. Palio is a top quality cutter backed by an outstanding warranty and the owners are great guys (and personal friends). Those here that have met Marc, Jack and Mike would agree.
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I think the basic black ones are most definitely worth the dough. The value of the special finishes really depends on how much it's worth to you. That is just cosmetic. I own multiple Palios and I can't say enough good things about them. Xikar makes a great cutter but I don't care for the ergonomics. Palio is a top quality cutter backed by an outstanding warranty and the owners are great guys (and personal friends). Those here that have met Marc, Jack and Mike would agree.

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Thank you, Adam.

But you don't say if you own a Palio? Obviously, you've used one. Do you think they are worth the dough?
In any case, described succinctly and easy enough for my tiny little brain to absorb.
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I love my Palio, more so than the Xicar, but the one T.G. gave me is a good distraction.
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Thank you, Adam.

But you don't say if you own a Palio? Obviously, you've used one. Do you think they are worth the dough?
In any case, described succinctly and easy enough for my tiny little brain to absorb.
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Thanks.

Yes, I do own a Palio - one of the original Amyx & Christy models.

I agree with Peter. The basic black one is worth the dough. The upgraded finishes are just personal touches for extra cost, if you like them, great, but it's the exact same cutter, body and allunder that finish as the base black one.

I do windows, but I charge extra for 3.0, 3.1, 3.11/WFWG, 95, 98, ME, NT3.5, NT3.5 and NT4.0 because they are so archaic and after dealing with them since they were first released, I'm sick of them. And, no, just because xwindows is GNU and free, doesn't mean my time is to fix it after someone breaks it.

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Thanks.

Yes, I do own a Palio - one of the original Amyx & Christy models.

I do windows, but I charge extra for 3.0, 3.1, 3.11/WFWG, 95, 98, ME, NT3.5, NT3.5 and NT4.0 because they are so archaic and after dealing with them since they were first released, I'm sick of them.
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I am directing you to go outside, strip down to your socks, find a nearby duck, hold a pine cone between your teeth, lift the duck to your cheek(face), walk slowly to a a bar that opens at 6am, and sit at the end of the bar and cry like the call of the Southern Right Whale Dolphin. If the phone rings, answer it by saying, "Guido here." If they ask which Guido?, hang up.
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