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Old 12-29-2010, 10:43 AM   #1
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Or perhaps this compromise is related to something other than the Ronson purchase, Carlos?
Absolutely could be Tom BUT, I am not a believer in coincidences like this.
Seems folks have been posting here gradually, with the same issue.
My charges came out of Italy. Seems all are having foreign charges too.
I think it just turns out my bank contacted me, knowing someone tried to make it via their system with my personal information and they stopped them in time.
I just wonder how many others have this same issue of personal information being secured but their bank never called them as mine did me or their bank did not have that confirmation process mine did.
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Now I will probably be scolded for this but...

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I just think there is clearly insufficient evidence to conclude the vendor is at fault here and make that assertion.

I have yet to be charged anything other than $15 and just checked again to make sure.
Remember you said that and was why you responded to my post warning people about this and the connection to shnoop

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Well, finally hit my card today.
Bank picked it up right away and called me.
They were making charges in Italy for groceries and appliances.

That information was not provided to the website on the purchase.
There is something much bigger going on here where perhaps Visa was compromised.
So you got hit - Too late to say I told ya so?

**In response to Tom's post about if you were sure it was due to the purchase on shnoop**

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Absolutely could be Tom BUT, I am not a believer in coincidences like this.
Seems folks have been posting here gradually, with the same issue.
Wait, you were a believer in coincidences like this when I posted and you were not affected. Now you have been hit and with slightly different circumstances (SSN and DOB compromised but not given to shnoop) and now you are quick to say it was them and now you do not believe in coincidences??

Sorry, but after all the flak I got for suggesting that it was related to the purchases on shnoop.......
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Old 12-29-2010, 12:17 PM   #3
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Sorry, but after all the flak I got for suggesting that it was related to the purchases on shnoop.......
No, you said it was shnoop. Major difference. This just makes you look even more clueless.
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Sorry, but after all the flak I got for suggesting that it was related to the purchases on shnoop.......
What I believe now, and have always believed, is this goes much further than a vendor.

Yes, now seeing that so many have been hit, and I too have, I no longer think it is a coincidence.
That in no way changes how I felt at the time this idea was originally posted and thereby don't feel any "in your face" feeling or "told you so" or whatever.
Simply, I too have now fallen victim.

While a victim, I don't see the sky falling or the end of the world though.
This is common.
This occurs every minute of the day.
I am well protected and all it took was a bit of time out of my day on the phone answering the bank's questions.

My point to post is to show I too was hit so therefore, as I said already, I now concur this is no coincidence as now there is sufficient evidence to impact ME.
My point is also there seems to be more than just charges. There is an issue here of identity theft, which goes much further beyond what was being discussed here until today.

Lastly, as Mark posts, our opposition to you was the statement that Schnoops did it. I don't believe that for a second but do believe there was a compromise of the system that accessed personal information that Schnoops NEVER got from me to perform the transaction.
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Old 12-29-2010, 12:25 PM   #5
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So you got hit - Too late to say I told ya so?
Not at all.

I don't disagree that it had to do with my transaction at Schoops.

Your post on here made me watch for charges daily.
The charges to my account took place today.
I think that is pretty fast to catch it.
Furthermore, let's be clear, even if you were Paul Revere, the British were coming. All you could do at that point is know they were coming. They still could not be stopped from coming.
These charges were going to take place whether you whistled Dixie or not.
However, I still do appreciate the advance warning. Just don't agree with you as to who is at fault.
My social and birth date came from Visa and not Schnoops.
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Old 12-29-2010, 12:30 PM   #6
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12 Ronson lighters... $17

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My social and birth date came from Visa and not Schnoops.

That is an oddity... Is there a way to find out the same for others? Curious to see if this goes even further. Glad I subscribe to transunion as well.....

And I will pass this along to others so they can be on the lookout
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That is an oddity... Is there a way to find out the same for others? Curious to see if this goes even further. Glad I subscribe to transunion as well.....

And I will pass this along to others so they can be on the lookout
This is the greatest feeling at times like these.
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This is the greatest feeling at times like these.
Does the number you posted lock all three or just transunion. A little concerned about the SSN and DOB thing as Amex will tell me nothing about the case except what charge was made.
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Does the number you posted lock all three or just transunion. A little concerned about the SSN and DOB thing as Amex will tell me nothing about the case except what charge was made.
The number I posted is for TransUnion, even if you don't have any monitoring with them.
Once you place the 90 day alert, they notify the two other bureaus.
It is a free service.

The Lock you see on that image is if you are a transunion subscriber, you can access your account and lock it, beyond the 90 day alert number I posted. It stays locked as long as you want to and you get an email if anyone attempts to pull your credit report or seek credit with your information.
Also, that lock applies to all three bureaus.

Both is the best most secure way to go.

Tell you what, at first, the thought of bogus charges on your card means little to me as has happened many times in my life and am protected from owing for them.
When I learned they had my social and dob for confirmation with the credit card company, that hit a whole new level and a much more serious one. Then again, just about everyone has that on me anyhow. Drs, Dentist, on and on and on. Just imaging how many can do this stuff on us.
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Now I will probably be scolded for this but...



Remember you said that and was why you responded to my post warning people about this and the connection to shnoop



Markem - Will you now say the same to Blueface? (see below)



So you got hit - Too late to say I told ya so?

**In response to Tom's post about if you were sure it was due to the purchase on shnoop**



Wait, you were a believer in coincidences like this when I posted and you were not affected. Now you have been hit and with slightly different circumstances (SSN and DOB compromised but not given to shnoop) and now you are quick to say it was them and now you do not believe in coincidences??

Sorry, but after all the flak I got for suggesting that it was related to the purchases on shnoop.......
Dude, you really don't get what Carlos and Mark tried to explain to you before right? Their suspicion was confirmed, not yours
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No, you said it was shnoop. Major difference. This just makes you look even more clueless.

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FYI, if you ordered from this deal please watch your credit cards. Everyone I know over on the other forums that ordered this deal has had fradulant charges appear.

I Just got a call from Amex Fraud. Nailed for $3,000 charge to Luftansa and a 40.00 charge to Air asia.

Thankfully Amex is very good at detecting this stuff and stopped them in their tracks.

I have no doubt that the use of Schnoops was the culprit either through a direct fraud by the website or and indirect hacking into their database.
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nuff said
Indeed, you are still wrong and you proved it.
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Indeed, you are still wrong and you proved it.
care to elaborate or do you just sit there and spout out bullshit?
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care to elaborate or do you just sit there and spout out bullshit?
I'm trying to emulate you. Go back, read ALL that you wrote, and think for a good long time. Doubt that will help you, however.

Maybe you can take this new information and prove to the authorities that you've solved the case once and for all! Again!
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care to elaborate or do you just sit there and spout out bullshit?
yawn. Janitor, where is the 'ignore' button?

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Dude, you really don't get what Carlos and Mark tried to explain to you before right? Their suspicion was confirmed, not yours
No I get it, they have an issue with me saying "it was" Shnoop's fault, problem is I did not say it was, read above.

And what suspicion was confirmed? That is was related to a hack on visa? What about MC, Amex, Discover? Also, icehog asked directly if it was related to the Ronson purchase and Blueface replied that he feels it was. So yea, I am confused at all the twisting and ignoring of words going on here.

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Absolutely could be Tom BUT, I am not a believer in coincidences like this.
Seems folks have been posting here gradually, with the same issue.
My charges came out of Italy. Seems all are having foreign charges too.
I think it just turns out my bank contacted me, knowing someone tried to make it via their system with my personal information and they stopped them in time.
I just wonder how many others have this same issue of personal information being secured but their bank never called them as mine did me or their bank did not have that confirmation process mine did.
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