Interesting random facts.

[awsmith4]

Originally Posted by 357

The state of Michigan has banned all "alcoholic energy" drinks across the board.

Apparently it is still legal to buy RedBull and Vodka separately. Not sure if they intent to make it illegal to mix them.

The intent was to stop the sale of drinks such as Four Loko, a malt alcohol drink with added caffeine. The FDA ruled caffeine an unsafe additive in alcoholic beverages. It supposedly stemmed from a WA college party where some underage students abused alcohol and then fell ill, imagine that. Apparently the caffeine masks the effects of the alcohol and allows people to become more intoxicated than they feel. I'm sure if the nannies can find a way to prohibit the mix of energy drinks and liquor they will. Its not my cup of tea but I still have a problem with the authorities telling me what I can and can't ingest. What could really suck is if the law translate to no more coffee stouts

[Commander Quan]

Originally Posted by awsmith4

The FDA ruled caffeine an unsafe additive in alcoholic beverages.

How are the Irish supposed to drink their coffee?

[Bill86]

Originally Posted by Commander Quan

How are the Irish and Bill supposed to drink their coffee?

Fixed. Mmm Jameson and coffee.

I've yet to try those four loco things but I heard they taste like crap so I had no interest. But I wouldn't like anyone telling me what to drink either.

[357]

Originally Posted by awsmith4

The intent was to stop the sale of drinks such as Four Loko, a malt alcohol drink with added caffeine. The FDA ruled caffeine an unsafe additive in alcoholic beverages. It supposedly stemmed from a WA college party where some underage students abused alcohol and then fell ill, imagine that. Apparently the caffeine masks the effects of the alcohol and allows people to become more intoxicated than they feel. I'm sure if the nannies can find a way to prohibit the mix of energy drinks and liquor they will. Its not my cup of tea but I still have a problem with the authorities telling me what I can and can't ingest. What could really suck is if the law translate to no more coffee stouts

The state of Michigan banned it. FDA was looking into extending it nationally, but I don't think that has happened yet.

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/dl...0_337774_7.pdf

It specifically lists the State of Utah's ban, many universities' ban, and a sexual assault on a local 14 year old as part of the justification for the ban.

I'm trying not to get on a soap box and preach, but I'll put it this way: I do not agree with the ban. I understand the intent, but I disagree with their method of "fixing" the problem.


Not to leave this post without a random interesting fact:

Michigan's football program is the winningest in college football history. The Wolverines have won a record 884 games and have an all-time winning percentage of .737, also the best in college football history.

[Lumpold]

Originally Posted by 357

...a sexual assault on a local 14 year old as part of the justification for the ban.

I'm fairly certain this could be used to justify a general ban on alcohol, no? I would wager several young teenage girls are assaulted by drunk men, with no caffeine involved, every year. I'd also say I'm pretty certain it wasn't the caffeine added to alcohol that caused the assault on the teenage girl in question either. Caffeine doesn't turn me into a paedophile. Well, I don't think it does

Edit: I am assuming it was on a 14yo girl.

Random Fact:

Northern Ireland is experiencing, as a whole coutry, it's worst snow in 25 years. Belfast, which had localised snow storms far worse in 2005, is the only place where this is not the worst snow in 25 years.

[357]

Originally Posted by Lumpold

I'm fairly certain this could be used to justify a general ban on alcohol, no?

Yes, that is the end result of their logic. The actions the perp took were already illegal. To assume that perp would not have commited such an act without said substance removes accountability. Perp decided to take whatever substance, then decided to commit a crime.

By similar logic, automobile accidents kill more people every year than any disease. Doctor's mistakes kill more people each year in the USA than guns do. Perhaps we should ban cars and doctors?


Random fact: It is impossible to lick your own elbow, but it is fun to watch people try.

[Lumpold]

Originally Posted by 357

Yes, that is the end result of their logic. The actions the perp took were already illegal. To assume that perp would not have commited such an act without said substance removes accountability. Perp decided to take whatever substance, then decided to commit a crime.

By similar logic, automobile accidents kill more people every year than any disease. Doctor's mistakes kill more people each year in the USA than guns do. Perhaps we should ban cars and doctors?


Random fact: It is impossible to lick your own elbow, but it is fun to watch people try.

That was my point, exactly. I should maybe have pointed out that alcohol doesn't cause paedophilia either.


Interesting fact: It is legal to shoot a Welshman with a bow and arrow from the walls of Chester, at 2am. It is also, technically, still a legal requirement for all Men over the age of 12 to practice archery at their local (itchy?) butts on a Sunday, all over the UK.

[M1903A1]

Originally Posted by Lumpold

Interesting fact: It is legal to shoot a Welshman with a bow and arrow from the walls of Chester, at 2am.

What about at 1:59 or 2:01? Never know when those sneaky Welsh will attack....

It is also, technically, still a legal requirement for all Men over the age of 12 to practice archery at their local (itchy?) butts on a Sunday, all over the UK.

Hmm...could this be extrapolated/extended to include rifle practice?