Humi in a Humi

cbsmokin · 04-29-2009, 12:37 PM

I have some old, rare, or expensive sticks that I have acquired. I want to isolate them from the rest of my stuff by placing them in a small humi inside of my cabinet humi. Is this a bad idea? Will I need to keep separate humidification going in the small humi or will it become regulated by the cabinet humi. Am I over thinking this? Is the easiest solution to place these delectable smokes into an empty box or cab? I was just trying to make their presence easily identifiable to me.

St. Lou Stu · 04-29-2009, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cbsmokin

I have some old, rare, or expensive sticks that I have acquired. I want to isolate them from the rest of my stuff by placing them in a small humi inside of my cabinet humi. Is this a bad idea? Will I need to keep separate humidification going in the small humi or will it become regulated by the cabinet humi. Am I over thinking this? Is the easiest solution to place these delectable smokes into an empty box or cab? I was just trying to make their presence easily identifiable to me.

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Skywalker · 04-29-2009, 12:51 PM

If the inner Humidor leaks like a sieve, then yes!

If the inner Humidor is of good quality and holds humidity well, then I wouldn't put it in another Humidor. A box would work better.

04-29-2009, 01:08 PM

I'd say it's personal preference, but I'd just put them in a box.

ca21455 · 04-29-2009, 01:36 PM

I vote put them in a box inside your cab.

Pitting a humidifier inside a humidifier is like jumbo shrimp, the two don't go together.

cbsmokin · 04-29-2009, 01:49 PM

Maybe I just need to put my cabinet humi inside a giant Aristocrat.

Now I might be on to something.

04-29-2009, 01:51 PM

I would say you best solution is to drill a hole in the side of both the smaller humidor and the cabinet, then seal in a flexible PVC tube between the two. Then, from within the cabinet, point a fan at the tube hole to circulate air from the large to small humi. You may have to repeat this process for an "air return" as well. Finally, you will have to anticipate a "humidity lag" of approx x = (( 10% X volume small humi / volume large humi ) X length of tube (cm) / 2.75) X diameter of tube^2 X 3.14144 / 100. Thus, you will want to set the large humi RH to y+x, where y is the RH you want for the small humi.

Cheers

John

cbsmokin · 04-29-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyanide

I would say you best solution is to drill a hole in the side of both the smaller humidor and the cabinet, then seal in a flexible PVC tube between the two. Then, from within the cabinet, point a fan at the tube hole to circulate air from the large to small humi. You may have to repeat this process for an "air return" as well. Finally, you will have to anticipate a "humidity lag" of approx x = (( 10% X volume small humi / volume large humi ) X length of tube (cm) / 2.75) X diameter of tube^2 X 3.14144 / 100. Thus, you will want to set the large humi RH to y+x, where y is the RH you want for the small humi.

Cheers

John

I think a schematic would be helpful. Please make sure it is to scale. Be sure to calculate the CFM I will need on the fan.

groogs · 04-29-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyanide

I would say you best solution is to drill a hole in the side of both the smaller humidor and the cabinet, then seal in a flexible PVC tube between the two. Then, from within the cabinet, point a fan at the tube hole to circulate air from the large to small humi. You may have to repeat this process for an "air return" as well. Finally, you will have to anticipate a "humidity lag" of approx x = (( 10% X volume small humi / volume large humi ) X length of tube (cm) / 2.75) X diameter of tube^2 X 3.14144 / 100. Thus, you will want to set the large humi RH to y+x, where y is the RH you want for the small humi.

Cheers

John

That is funny Chit. I needed that.

Skywalker · 04-29-2009, 02:47 PM

Just buy a humidifier and bring your whole house up to 65% RH!!! Make sure to keep your closet doors open!!!

rrplasencia · 04-29-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyanide

I would say you best solution is to drill a hole in the side of both the smaller humidor and the cabinet, then seal in a flexible PVC tube between the two. Then, from within the cabinet, point a fan at the tube hole to circulate air from the large to small humi. You may have to repeat this process for an "air return" as well. Finally, you will have to anticipate a "humidity lag" of approx x = (( 10% X volume small humi / volume large humi ) X length of tube (cm) / 2.75) X diameter of tube^2 X 3.14144 / 100. Thus, you will want to set the large humi RH to y+x, where y is the RH you want for the small humi.

Cheers

John

thats just funny

Hitagain · 04-29-2009, 02:14 PM

You would need to have about 60+ air changes per hour to maintain equal humidity levels within 5%.

ucla695 · 04-29-2009, 08:10 PM

Not a problem at all. Just be sure to check on it every now and then.

04-29-2009, 12:37 PM	#1
cbsmokin Looking for the Apex Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Craig Location: In da ATL Posts: 882 Trading: (10)	Humi in a Humi I have some old, rare, or expensive sticks that I have acquired. I want to isolate them from the rest of my stuff by placing them in a small humi inside of my cabinet humi. Is this a bad idea? Will I need to keep separate humidification going in the small humi or will it become regulated by the cabinet humi. Am I over thinking this? Is the easiest solution to place these delectable smokes into an empty box or cab? I was just trying to make their presence easily identifiable to me. __________________ Check out C.A.R.B. IV http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showth...840#post879840

04-29-2009, 12:51 PM	#3
Skywalker BABOTL Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dice Location: Galaxy Far Far Away Posts: 10,168 Trading: (18)	Re: Humi in a Humi If the inner Humidor leaks like a sieve, then yes! If the inner Humidor is of good quality and holds humidity well, then I wouldn't put it in another Humidor. A box would work better. __________________ Smoke what you like!!!

04-29-2009, 01:08 PM	#4
shortstory5 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Humi in a Humi I'd say it's personal preference, but I'd just put them in a box.

04-29-2009, 01:36 PM	#5
ca21455 Working on Reality Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: John Location: Backyard Posts: 393 Trading: (7)	Re: Humi in a Humi I vote put them in a box inside your cab. Pitting a humidifier inside a humidifier is like jumbo shrimp, the two don't go together.

04-29-2009, 01:49 PM	#6
cbsmokin Looking for the Apex Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Craig Location: In da ATL Posts: 882 Trading: (10)	Re: Humi in a Humi Maybe I just need to put my cabinet humi inside a giant Aristocrat. Now I might be on to something. __________________ Check out C.A.R.B. IV http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showth...840#post879840

04-29-2009, 01:51 PM	#7
Cyanide Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Humi in a Humi I would say you best solution is to drill a hole in the side of both the smaller humidor and the cabinet, then seal in a flexible PVC tube between the two. Then, from within the cabinet, point a fan at the tube hole to circulate air from the large to small humi. You may have to repeat this process for an "air return" as well. Finally, you will have to anticipate a "humidity lag" of approx x = (( 10% X volume small humi / volume large humi ) X length of tube (cm) / 2.75) X diameter of tube^2 X 3.14144 / 100. Thus, you will want to set the large humi RH to y+x, where y is the RH you want for the small humi. Cheers John

04-29-2009, 02:47 PM	#10
Skywalker BABOTL Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dice Location: Galaxy Far Far Away Posts: 10,168 Trading: (18)	Re: Humi in a Humi Just buy a humidifier and bring your whole house up to 65% RH!!! Make sure to keep your closet doors open!!! __________________ Smoke what you like!!!

04-29-2009, 02:14 PM	#12
Hitagain Bomb'n relocation program Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Allen Location: St. Louis Posts: 103 Trading: (7)	Re: Humi in a Humi You would need to have about 60+ air changes per hour to maintain equal humidity levels within 5%. __________________ I.B.E.W. Local 1

04-29-2009, 08:10 PM	#13
ucla695 Neither here, nor there Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Pool Posts: 3,696 Trading: (5)	Re: Humi in a Humi Not a problem at all. Just be sure to check on it every now and then.