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cbsmokin 04-29-2009 12:37 PM

Humi in a Humi
 
I have some old, rare, or expensive sticks that I have acquired. I want to isolate them from the rest of my stuff by placing them in a small humi inside of my cabinet humi. Is this a bad idea? Will I need to keep separate humidification going in the small humi or will it become regulated by the cabinet humi. Am I over thinking this? Is the easiest solution to place these delectable smokes into an empty box or cab? I was just trying to make their presence easily identifiable to me.

St. Lou Stu 04-29-2009 12:39 PM

Re: Humi in a Humi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cbsmokin (Post 361858)
I have some old, rare, or expensive sticks that I have acquired. I want to isolate them from the rest of my stuff by placing them in a small humi inside of my cabinet humi. Is this a bad idea? Will I need to keep separate humidification going in the small humi or will it become regulated by the cabinet humi. Am I over thinking this? Is the easiest solution to place these delectable smokes into an empty box or cab? I was just trying to make their presence easily identifiable to me.

Ding, Ding, Ding.......

Skywalker 04-29-2009 12:51 PM

Re: Humi in a Humi
 
If the inner Humidor leaks like a sieve, then yes!

If the inner Humidor is of good quality and holds humidity well, then I wouldn't put it in another Humidor. A box would work better.
:2

shortstory5 04-29-2009 01:08 PM

Re: Humi in a Humi
 
I'd say it's personal preference, but I'd just put them in a box.

ca21455 04-29-2009 01:36 PM

Re: Humi in a Humi
 
I vote put them in a box inside your cab.

Pitting a humidifier inside a humidifier is like jumbo shrimp, the two don't go together. ;)

cbsmokin 04-29-2009 01:49 PM

Re: Humi in a Humi
 
Maybe I just need to put my cabinet humi inside a giant Aristocrat.

Now I might be on to something.

Cyanide 04-29-2009 01:51 PM

Re: Humi in a Humi
 
I would say you best solution is to drill a hole in the side of both the smaller humidor and the cabinet, then seal in a flexible PVC tube between the two. Then, from within the cabinet, point a fan at the tube hole to circulate air from the large to small humi. You may have to repeat this process for an "air return" as well. Finally, you will have to anticipate a "humidity lag" of approx x = (( 10% X volume small humi / volume large humi ) X length of tube (cm) / 2.75) X diameter of tube^2 X 3.14144 / 100. Thus, you will want to set the large humi RH to y+x, where y is the RH you want for the small humi.

Cheers

John

cbsmokin 04-29-2009 02:00 PM

Re: Humi in a Humi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyanide (Post 361970)
I would say you best solution is to drill a hole in the side of both the smaller humidor and the cabinet, then seal in a flexible PVC tube between the two. Then, from within the cabinet, point a fan at the tube hole to circulate air from the large to small humi. You may have to repeat this process for an "air return" as well. Finally, you will have to anticipate a "humidity lag" of approx x = (( 10% X volume small humi / volume large humi ) X length of tube (cm) / 2.75) X diameter of tube^2 X 3.14144 / 100. Thus, you will want to set the large humi RH to y+x, where y is the RH you want for the small humi.

Cheers

John

I think a schematic would be helpful. Please make sure it is to scale. Be sure to calculate the CFM I will need on the fan.

Hitagain 04-29-2009 02:14 PM

Re: Humi in a Humi
 
You would need to have about 60+ air changes per hour to maintain equal humidity levels within 5%.

groogs 04-29-2009 02:40 PM

Re: Humi in a Humi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyanide (Post 361970)
I would say you best solution is to drill a hole in the side of both the smaller humidor and the cabinet, then seal in a flexible PVC tube between the two. Then, from within the cabinet, point a fan at the tube hole to circulate air from the large to small humi. You may have to repeat this process for an "air return" as well. Finally, you will have to anticipate a "humidity lag" of approx x = (( 10% X volume small humi / volume large humi ) X length of tube (cm) / 2.75) X diameter of tube^2 X 3.14144 / 100. Thus, you will want to set the large humi RH to y+x, where y is the RH you want for the small humi.

Cheers

John


That is funny Chit. I needed that.:D

Skywalker 04-29-2009 02:47 PM

Re: Humi in a Humi
 
Just buy a humidifier and bring your whole house up to 65% RH!!! Make sure to keep your closet doors open!!!:D
http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggIma...113-089-01.jpg

BigCat 04-29-2009 02:53 PM

Re: Humi in a Humi
 
I keep a small 20 ct. humidor in my cooler with random singles. I have never put a humidificationd device in it and have never had any trouble smoking the sticks that come out of it. I think it is a rare humidor that is completely air tight - there has to be some air exchange. As long as the air in the big humidor is the right RH, there shouldn't be any problems.

groogs 04-29-2009 03:12 PM

Re: Humi in a Humi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCat (Post 362068)
I keep a small 20 ct. humidor in my cooler with random singles. I have never put a humidificationd device in it and have never had any trouble smoking the sticks that come out of it. I think it is a rare humidor that is completely air tight - there has to be some air exchange. As long as the air in the big humidor is the right RH, there shouldn't be any problems.

:tpd:I also keep a bunch of small humidors in my cooler and cabinet and I have never had a problem. I put all my CC's that come in dress boxes into small humidors because I can fit more into them and save space. I never put any humidification devices in them and the cigars always smoke great.

ucla695 04-29-2009 08:10 PM

Re: Humi in a Humi
 
Not a problem at all. Just be sure to check on it every now and then. :)

HK3- 04-29-2009 08:13 PM

Re: Humi in a Humi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skywalker (Post 362058)
Just buy a humidifier and bring your whole house up to 65% RH!!! Make sure to keep your closet doors open!!!:D
http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggIma...113-089-01.jpg

That's some funny chit! I may have drooled on myself. :r

rrplasencia 04-29-2009 10:20 PM

Re: Humi in a Humi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyanide (Post 361970)
I would say you best solution is to drill a hole in the side of both the smaller humidor and the cabinet, then seal in a flexible PVC tube between the two. Then, from within the cabinet, point a fan at the tube hole to circulate air from the large to small humi. You may have to repeat this process for an "air return" as well. Finally, you will have to anticipate a "humidity lag" of approx x = (( 10% X volume small humi / volume large humi ) X length of tube (cm) / 2.75) X diameter of tube^2 X 3.14144 / 100. Thus, you will want to set the large humi RH to y+x, where y is the RH you want for the small humi.

Cheers

John

thats just funny :r


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