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ChicagoWhiteSox 04-28-2009 03:42 PM

Craft Beer
 
A cool video on craft beer. The CEO of Stone Brewing Co. made this video.
http://vimeo.com/4298464?pg=embed&sec=


What are some of your favorite craft beers?

SeanGAR 04-28-2009 06:19 PM

Re: Craft Beer
 
Never had a bad beer from Stone, Victory or Three Floyds ... and I've had quite a few. I've had more than 1 stinker from the likes of Dogfishhead and Sam Adams.

SeanGAR 04-28-2009 07:16 PM

Re: Craft Beer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by volfan (Post 360607)
And if anyone in socal wants to do a trade, I REALLY want to try Russian River Pliny the Elder IPA.

And Sean, I have a bottle of Bitter Choc Oatmeal Stout with your name on it if you want to do a trade (we are neighbors since I live in the tri-cities).

While you're getting socal brews, you need to get a bottle of the Alesmith Speedway stout, standard version or oak barrel. Or both. I had a Secret Santa hit me with one of those (standard) a few years back and it was outstanding. I haven't had the pliny the elder, but I've heard great things. From what I understand, Bob McDole, a famous homebrewer, won the Sam Adams Longshot contest with a pliny clone. We have the longshot 6ers in Kroger now. Close as you can get without a trade from one of our friends from socal. The other 2 beers in the 6er are an OK nothing special bock and a downright scary cranberry wit. YUK. What a shame. At least I can cook with the bock.

I haven't had that Stone but I'll work something out (PM coming).

HawkEye19 04-28-2009 08:46 PM

Re: Craft Beer
 
"I just cant quite bring myself to drink mass-produced beer anymore."

You just quoted a number of mass-produced beers. It's nitpicking, I know.

SeanGAR 04-28-2009 09:24 PM

Re: Craft Beer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkEye19 (Post 361006)
"I just cant quite bring myself to drink mass-produced beer anymore."

You just quoted a number of mass-produced beers. It's nitpicking, I know.

Stone, DFH, Brooklyn, Southern Tier, SN, Malheur, Saison, Chimay, Unibrou, Ommegang.

SAB, A-B-Inbev, Carlsburg, Kirin, G-Modelo, Fosters, Scottish & Newcastle, Coors, Ashai, Polar, Bass.

Which mass produce beer?

I can get the numbers if you like.

ChicagoWhiteSox 04-29-2009 08:45 AM

Re: Craft Beer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanGAR (Post 361052)
Stone, DFH, Brooklyn, Southern Tier, SN, Malheur, Saison, Chimay, Unibrou, Ommegang.

SAB, A-B-Inbev, Carlsburg, Kirin, G-Modelo, Fosters, Scottish & Newcastle, Coors, Ashai, Polar, Bass.

Which mass produce beer?

I can get the numbers if you like.


Ill add to that list that are craft breweries.

Rogue
New Glaus
Bar Harbor
Anderson Valley
Great Divide
Sweetwater
August Schell
Sierra Nevada
Alaskan
Magic Hat
Anchor
Flying Dog
Bear Republic
Founders
Goose Island
Yuengling

http://www.beertown.org/education/craft_defined.html
more infor on craft and microbreweries

AD720 04-29-2009 08:48 AM

Re: Craft Beer
 
All of the beer coming out of the Philly area lately has been fantastic.

Philadelphia Brewing Co.
Yards
Troegs
Flying Fish


I could drink just Philly beer forever.

HawkEye19 04-29-2009 12:00 PM

Re: Craft Beer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanGAR (Post 361052)
Stone, DFH, Brooklyn, Southern Tier, SN, Malheur, Saison, Chimay, Unibrou, Ommegang.

SAB, A-B-Inbev, Carlsburg, Kirin, G-Modelo, Fosters, Scottish & Newcastle, Coors, Ashai, Polar, Bass.

Which mass produce beer?

I can get the numbers if you like.

Save for a couple of those breweries, they all mass produce beer. InBEV, Miller-Coors and Pabst just do it on a larger scale. Bottling lines, multiple fermentors and brew kettles make for "mass production".

Unless you're drinking beer you made yourself, or a small brewpub/brewery operation you're drinking "mass produced" beer.

ChicagoWhiteSox 04-29-2009 12:27 PM

Re: Craft Beer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkEye19 (Post 361800)
Save for a couple of those breweries, they all mass produce beer. InBEV, Miller-Coors and Pabst just do it on a larger scale. Bottling lines, multiple fermentors and brew kettles make for "mass production".

Unless you're drinking beer you made yourself, or a small brewpub/brewery operation you're drinking "mass produced" beer.

To be a craft/microbrewery you can only make 15,000 barrels or less of beer a year. Miller and Bud make close to 100,000,000 barrels a year EACH. I think there is a difference there. For every one barrel of beer a craft brewery makes, Miller and Bud will make 14,000. I hope this will help you put "mass production" into perspective.

ChicagoWhiteSox 04-29-2009 12:33 PM

Re: Craft Beer
 
To add more perspective, a US beer barrel is 31 gallons. A craft brewery will make 465,000 gallons of beer a year. Bud will make 3,100,000,000 gallons. Add in Miller and you have 6,200,000,000 gallons a year. Thats only 2 of the big beer producers. For every 1 gallon of beer a craft brewery will make, Bud and Miller will make 413,333 gallons.

SeanGAR 04-29-2009 12:34 PM

Re: Craft Beer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkEye19 (Post 361800)
Save for a couple of those breweries, they all mass produce beer. InBEV, Miller-Coors and Pabst just do it on a larger scale. Bottling lines, multiple fermentors and brew kettles make for "mass production".

Unless you're drinking beer you made yourself, or a small brewpub/brewery operation you're drinking "mass produced" beer.

Legend ... is that you?

:al

Oh, and I have multiple fermentors, multiple brew kettles, I sterile filter, artificially carbonate and have a bottling line (although I normally keg). So I guess I mass produce beer.

Scimmia 04-29-2009 12:39 PM

Re: Craft Beer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanGAR (Post 360747)
While you're getting socal brews, you need to get a bottle of the Alesmith Speedway stout, standard version or oak barrel. Or both. I had a Secret Santa hit me with one of those (standard) a few years back and it was outstanding. I haven't had the pliny the elder, but I've heard great things. From what I understand, Bob McDole, a famous homebrewer, won the Sam Adams Longshot contest with a pliny clone. We have the longshot 6ers in Kroger now. Close as you can get without a trade from one of our friends from socal. The other 2 beers in the 6er are an OK nothing special bock and a downright scary cranberry wit. YUK. What a shame. At least I can cook with the bock.

I haven't had that Stone but I'll work something out (PM coming).

They finally made the Pliney clone? They couldn't do it last year, SA simply couldn't get the hops needed during the shortage, so McDole opted to have them wait rather than use hops they could get; I've been waiting all year for it to hit the shelves!

ChicagoWhiteSox 04-29-2009 01:23 PM

Re: Craft Beer
 
Terrapin Side Project- Monk's Revenge

http://beeramerica.tv/

ChicagoWhiteSox 04-29-2009 01:25 PM

Re: Craft Beer
 
Dogfish Head Red & White
mini review

http://beeramerica.tv/dogfish-head-red-white-ep-44/

BeerAdvocate 04-29-2009 01:35 PM

Re: Craft Beer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scimmia (Post 361862)
They finally made the Pliney clone? They couldn't do it last year, SA simply couldn't get the hops needed during the shortage, so McDole opted to have them wait rather than use hops they could get; I've been waiting all year for it to hit the shelves!

Yep. Its in this years Longshot 6pk. I tried it last week. I didnt think it was that great. I hope the one bottle of Pliny that I have been saving tastes better

kaisersozei 04-29-2009 03:10 PM

Re: Craft Beer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanGAR (Post 361852)
Oh, and I have multiple fermentors, multiple brew kettles, I sterile filter, artificially carbonate and have a bottling line (although I normally keg). So I guess I mass produce beer.


:wo Sweet--I've been waiting to make a purchase!

Scimmia 04-29-2009 03:42 PM

Re: Craft Beer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BeerAdvocate (Post 361943)
Yep. Its in this years Longshot 6pk. I tried it last week. I didnt think it was that great. I hope the one bottle of Pliny that I have been saving tastes better

Saving? I thought Vinnie at Russian River said that Pliney needed to be drank fresh?

SeanGAR 04-29-2009 05:42 PM

Re: Craft Beer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scimmia (Post 362151)
Saving? I thought Vinnie at Russian River said that Pliney needed to be drank fresh?

Great marketing.

Nah ... don't save it, drink up, you can always buy more.

AD720 04-29-2009 05:51 PM

Re: Craft Beer
 
Just opened a Atwater Block Brewery Vanilla Java Porter.

So far it is ok but with a name like that I was expecting a major flavor explosion.


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