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Commander Quan 07-24-2012 10:00 AM

Paleo Diet & Lifestyle
 
I hate to call this a diet because most people who follow it make lifestyle changes other than what they eat, but does anyone else follow a paleo lifestyle? I saw a couple guys mention in the Crossfit thread that they eat paleo, anyone else?

mariogolbee 07-24-2012 10:47 AM

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I would think consuming Palios would pose a major risk of internal lacerations.

WittyUserName 07-24-2012 11:05 AM

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I am following it as best I can down here. I do not have access to the best foods as we do not have the best robust NEX. I started after getting The Gout and doing some diet research. I am working my way into the lifestyle part slowly as I fell off that wagon a long time ago and are starting to climb back on slowly.

Commander Quan 07-24-2012 11:39 AM

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Keep me updated Adam. I know your resources are limited, but I think a reduction in gluten should help with your inflammation.

Commander Quan 07-24-2012 12:12 PM

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I guess I should tell you about my situation. I started Paleo last year sometime in early summer, and was seeing some weight loss. Kept up with it until our beach vacation which was a week of hoagies, pizza and beer, and the week after we came home I felt horrible. Paleo took a back seat I started working out and eating sensibly in moderation, but by Christmas my weight was 245.

In January I decided I was going paleo hardcore. I buttoned up my diet, and without working out I lost 30 lbs the first 3 months, which was fantastic but I also wasn't getting heart burn every day like I used to, the inflammation I had in my L4, L5 & L5,S1 discs went away, and my wife could finally take the can of air freshener out of the bedroom since my GI issues were now a non issue. At this point I am knocking at the door on 200 (202 this morning), which is less than I weighted when I graduated High school 11 years ago.

CigarNut 07-24-2012 12:12 PM

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My wife follows it pretty closely. Some of the "options" repel me (e.g., the use of Coconut and Coconut Oil) but others are pretty good. She is also very much into CrossFit.

Commander Quan 07-24-2012 12:31 PM

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Coconut oil rocks my world. I mix it with the leftover bacon grease to cook my my eggs with spinach onions and mushrooms every morning for breakfast

CigarNut 07-24-2012 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Commander Quan (Post 1686630)
Coconut oil rocks my world. I mix it with the leftover bacon grease to cook my my eggs with spinach onions and mushrooms every morning for breakfast

I can't stand the smell or taste -- makes me naseous...

Commander Quan 07-24-2012 01:08 PM

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Palm oil is another good one

The Poet 07-24-2012 03:08 PM

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If things get much worse for me, I shall be adopting a paleolithic diet and lifestyle: I'll be squatting naked in the dirt, eating grubs, seeds, and tubers. :bhd

Commander Quan 07-24-2012 03:18 PM

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Sounds good. If you can scrounge up some sweet potatoes they'll be better for you, less starch and all.

The Poet 07-24-2012 03:22 PM

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I yam cognizant of that.

mariogolbee 07-24-2012 03:33 PM

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Derrick, after coming back to read a few comments in this thread can you please I've a few links and/or describe what this Paleo thing is? I know there is google, but who wants to scour the web sifting through heaps of information for kernels of truth when it appears that you are doing something that seems to work for you. Besides, this thread title does suggest a description is in order. Please?

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Originally Posted by CigarNut (Post 1686617)
My wife follows it pretty closely. Some of the "options" repel me (e.g., the use of Coconut and Coconut Oil) but others are pretty good. She is also very much into CrossFit.

Which coconut oil have you tried and with what? Thee are so many different grades and concentrations of flavor for coconut oil that completely dismissing it altogether is akin to dismissing milk because you tried raw milk, but never tried non-fat or whole milk. I'm not saying you haven't tied more than one "kind," but there is no information leading me to believe you have. Also, coconut oil has a very low smoking point, IIRC, so it can easily change flavor and aroma if overheated.

BigAsh 07-24-2012 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 1686714)
I yam cognizant of that.

:D

CigarNut 07-24-2012 03:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mariogolbee (Post 1686720)
Derrick, after coming back to read a few comments in this thread can you please I've a few links and/or describe what this Paleo thing is? I know there is google, but who wants to scour the web sifting through heaps of information for kernels of truth when it appears that you are doing something that seems to work for you. Besides, this thread title does suggest a description is in order. Please?


Which coconut oil have you tried and with what? Thee are so many different grades and concentrations of flavor for coconut oil that completely dismissing it altogether is akin to dismissing milk because you tried raw milk, but never tried non-fat or whole milk. I'm not saying you haven't tied more than one "kind," but there is no information leading me to believe you have. Also, coconut oil has a very low smoking point, IIRC, so it can easily change flavor and aroma if overheated.

Not sure which ones. I know that she has tried several and I can taste or smell them everytime. She has learned not to "surprise" me anymore as she does not like to be the cause of my puking. If she does use them she uses them when I am not around and in food that is marked so I won't eat it. She has learned to air out the house after cooking with it...

mariogolbee 07-24-2012 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CigarNut (Post 1686731)
Not sure which ones. I know that she has tried several and I can taste or smell them everytime. She has learned not to "surprise" me anymore as she does not like to be the cause of my puking. If she does use them she uses them when I am not around and in food that is marked so I won't eat it. She has learned to air out the house after cooking with it...

Well then. I would ask about the smoking point, etc., but I assume that you are far more qualified than I on matters of chemical reactions. So, I guess it's just to each his own. If you get an adverse effect from the stuff then it simply is what it is.

Commander Quan 07-24-2012 04:29 PM

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Mario I typed out a whole long thing for you, and someone came and asked me for something and I accidentally closed the window.

This is basically what I had typed only better than I could do it.
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/defin...l-eating-plan/
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/defin...mal-blueprint/

WittyUserName 07-24-2012 05:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Commander Quan (Post 1686754)
Mario I typed out a whole long thing for you, and someone came and asked me for something and I accidentally closed the window.

This is basically what I had typed only better than I could do it.
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/defin...l-eating-plan/
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/defin...mal-blueprint/

This site is great!!

Commander Quan 07-24-2012 05:40 PM

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Mark's book is what got me started, but the website has more info that you could digest in a lifetime. I'm a member on the forum too but a lot of the people are so snarky I don't ever post.
Also check out RobbWolf.com Lots of good info and a good podcast and CavemanDoctor.com it's a relatively new site so there isn't the volumes of info but the guy is a Radiation Oncologist and really does his homework with his posts. They also have a podcast that gets put up once a week.

Adam I don't know if you saw this or not
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/gout-primal-paleo-diet/

Mattso3000 07-24-2012 05:41 PM

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Did the Paleo thing for prep for a half marathon back in 2009 and lost 45 lbs in 6 mos. Of course I was running 6 to 10 miles a day at the time as well, but the energy levels on this diet are huge if you're training for a race or any other physical activity. Highly recommended.

WittyUserName 07-24-2012 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Commander Quan (Post 1686806)
Adam I don't know if you saw this or not
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/gout-primal-paleo-diet/

I did not see this one but I have read a few that say the same thing. That is what ultimately made my mind up.

mariogolbee 07-24-2012 05:53 PM

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Ha ha! I hate when that happens. Thank you for the information. I'll have to check it out later, but I think others happening upon this thread might also benefit from knowing what's being discussed here.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Commander Quan (Post 1686754)
Mario I typed out a whole long thing for you, and someone came and asked me for something and I accidentally closed the window.

This is basically what I had typed only better than I could do it.
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/defin...l-eating-plan/
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/defin...mal-blueprint/


Joneser172 07-25-2012 07:09 AM

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I have been living Paleo on and off for a year and like it a lot. The only thing that gets me is the Paleo hangover when I slip up...Horrible.

Ismith75 07-25-2012 07:13 AM

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I do Paleo all week and try to stay pretty tight with it on the weekends. I feel much better when I'm on it, only wish it was a little easier to follow. The only advice I can give is to always prep food ahead of time and make side you have options to eat when your out.

Commander Quan 07-25-2012 07:30 AM

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Cooking in batches helps a lot. On the weekend we cook for the lunches the next week. Frozen veggiies can help a lot too. I eat half a bag of broccoli almost every day at work. It does take some planning and forethought, but for me the inconvienience is worth it. What i was doing before certainly wasn't working.

Tristan 07-25-2012 08:16 AM

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My mother and father-in-law follow the Paleo diet. They love it. We joke that my mother-in-law only picked "this" diet because alcohol is permitted. That sounds like my kind of lifestyle!

I'm looking to make a lifestyle change and I think maybe I'll borrow the book. It makes sense to me that our bodies work better when eating like the cave man.

Chainsaw13 07-25-2012 10:10 AM

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I'd heard about the Paleo diet but hadn't really given it much thought. I've already been doing a lower carb diet to control my blood sugar, so this could be the next step in the progression. Although giving up cheese would make it really difficult. Bread/rice/pasta I can do without. Give me a hunk of stinky talleggio melted over a grilled hamburger any day. :dr

Commander Quan 07-25-2012 10:56 AM

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Cheese is one of the foods that are on the fence. Technically dairy is not paleo since Hunter Gatherers were not out milking mastodons, and a lot of people do loose the enzymes to properly digest dairy after about 4 years old, but others can eat it and not have issues. I've cut out most dairy just from not eating cereal and ice cream, but I will still eat cheese. I've started cold smoking my own cheese recently, and will have a couple pieces once a week or so, or have a slice on a hamburger patty when I grill them. I've also started eating berries with mascarpone and a dash of heavy whipping cream as a dessert one or two evenings a week.

Chainsaw13 07-25-2012 11:18 AM

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The only dairy I eat is greek yogurt for breakfast and the occassional bit of cheese. So not like i"m eating a lot of it. Never had the stomach for milk. Ice cream was always a treat thing anyway for me, so having really given it up the last year or so wasn't a big deal.

Found this on FB today. Now this sounds good. I will be making one soon.

http://thefreerangehuman.wordpress.c...togenic-pizza/

Commander Quan 07-25-2012 11:26 AM

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Sweet. I just made this last week. It's a pound of chopped bacon wrapped up inside 2 pounds of pork sausage inside a pound of woven bacon.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...n/DSC00314.jpg

Chainsaw13 07-25-2012 11:31 AM

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Yea, gotta love bacon explosions. I make a cheeseburger version that's really good.

Commander Quan 07-25-2012 11:40 AM

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Last month I bought 9 pounds of pork side and dry cured and cold smoked my own bacon. It pretty much rocks.

357 07-25-2012 12:42 PM

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No after pics Derrick? I assume you smoked that bacon explosion. :dr

Commander Quan 07-25-2012 12:52 PM

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Yes sir. Please disregard the hairy leg attached to the flip flop

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...n/DSC00315.jpg

357 07-25-2012 01:01 PM

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Fantastic and, I didn't even notice a leg or a flip-flop. I need to get my butt moving on building my UDS. I now have two 55-gal drums just in case I need to cut one to make a door for the other. But I need to get them blasted, painted, and the buy the parts to convert it.

Concerning Paleo diet, it sounds similar to a low-carb high-protien diet like Atkins, minus the cheese. That "pizza" looks good. I might try something similar in the future. I've lost weight using low carb diets and kept it off for a long time but it's difficult when my wife makes most of my dinners and isn't on the same page.

Commander Quan 07-25-2012 01:17 PM

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Atkins and Paleo are similar. The main difference is that Atkins limits the amounts of fruits and vegetables you should eat where with paleo vegetables should be a major part of what you eat. The other difference is that with Atkins there is no attention paid to the quality of food that you eat, where with paleo it should be minimally processed. If you can't tell if it came from a plant or animal you probably shouldn't eat it. The Atkins group as a line of protein bars and bottled beverages, paleo has that too they're chicken legs and filtered water.

Commander Quan 07-25-2012 01:37 PM

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I should also point out that a lot of people take this a step further than just what they eat. People actually make changes to turn this into a lifestyle, things like proper sun exposure, physical activity and they way they workout, adequate sleep and the quality of the sleep. I do try to incorporate most of these into my lifestyle, I've asked my wife for an atlatl for my lat two birthdays and Christmases but no dice. I haven't gone as far as getting one of these

357 07-25-2012 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Commander Quan (Post 1687416)
I should also point out that a lot of people take this a step further than just what they eat. People actually make changes to turn this into a lifestyle, things like proper sun exposure, physical activity and they way they workout, adequate sleep and the quality of the sleep. I do try to incorporate most of these into my lifestyle, I've asked my wife for an atlatl for my lat two birthdays and Christmases but no dice. I haven't gone as far as getting one of these

That link is hilarious. I'm 6'6" so my legs are at that angle on normal toilets unless I'm on a handi-crapper. My step-sis and BIL (6'4" & 6'5") have one, it sits about 4 inches taller than normal.

I understand where you're going with Paleo being a lifestyle and the difference in food quality. When eating low-carb/Atkins I do incorporate vegetables, primarily green veggies, but I have to be selective. I can see how a Paleo lifestyle would be a vast improvement for most people. BTW, I love the idea of gettign an atlatl. I wonder if it'd be legal to hunt with one????

Commander Quan 07-25-2012 02:07 PM

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I haven't got a chance to see this all of this yet, but at the end a group of them did take down an elk with atlatls. There was a specialist of some sort on the show that said to his knowledge that elk was the largest animal taken with an atlatl in modern times.
http://robbwolf.com/2011/09/23/i-caveman/

Commander Quan 07-25-2012 02:20 PM

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I just found this, it's a pretty good media piece I've seen describing the concept. http://www.hulu.com/watch/220387

Commander Quan 07-27-2012 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Acton (Post 1688806)
Well!!!
This is an example of items founds in a high fat diet - I don't recommend this as the sole source of foods but with the addition of eggs, dairy, vegetables & cold water fish (sardines, mackerel, herring or salmon) - it would be much closer to ideal....

Other than dairy which is questionable for the reasons I posted above, at the addition of quality meats, that is what you eat.

area51 07-27-2012 04:15 AM

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Troll

WittyUserName 07-27-2012 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by area51 (Post 1688833)
Troll

indeed...

Joneser172 08-03-2012 09:28 AM

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I have crashed hard off my eating plan. Clean foods again starting tomorrow.

Commander Quan 01-11-2013 01:48 PM

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Just thought I would bump this up to the top again to see if we have anyone else.

2012 was a great year for me. Eating this way has pretty much become my lifestyle. For the month of January the wife and I are doing a program called Whole 30 which is basically a strict version of Paleo, and is meant to be sort of a reset for your body. I did go a little loose in December, and it feels good to get back on that wagon.

czerbe 01-11-2013 02:00 PM

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My brother just bought me the "Paleo Solution" book he has been doing it for a year now. I'm thinking about starting it in a slow way not going over board. I droped nearly 50lbs with diet and exercise over the last 2 years but i'm looking to kick it up a notch.

Commander Quan 01-11-2013 02:55 PM

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The Paleo Solution is a good book to explain not just the how, buy the why of eating this way, and how environmental factors effect people. Robb Wolf's writing is not dry by any means, and he's a proponent of tequila, so what's not to like.

jldude12345 01-20-2013 03:23 PM

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I started using coconut oil and I love it. The hardest part is the bread! Man I love good bread. I have tried some of the sprouted breads...mostly yuk! Any suggestions?

Commander Quan 01-21-2013 02:47 PM

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Bread is a tough one for a lot of people since it seams like everything is eaten with it. Burgers can be eaten without, Lettuce leafs can be used to wrap up a lot of things normally eaten in a sandwich, but mostly it's about changing the way you think about food. Bread has a Glycemic Index of between 64 & 87 and even Whole Wheat bread has a GI average of 71, compare that with a Coke which has a GI of 63. If you eat toast, or a bagel for breakfast, a sandwich for lunch and a side of bread for supper, along with whatever other grain based products you eat during the day your blood sugar is constantly peaking, and then crashing once the insulin rushes in to counter the effects.

big a 01-27-2013 10:29 AM

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My friend started the Primal diet/ lifestyle which i believe is Paleo. The wife and I have since started this. I have got several of the cookbooks. What are some of everyone's favorite meals?


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