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BigFrank 12-04-2009 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteSB75 (Post 667720)
Heavy back day this morning. Nothing too special, bent over rows, lat pulldowns, HS low rows, finished up with some dips. Herfing tonight!:ss

Nice! Get that row going. Don't be afraid to go a little heavy, use a little body english if need be.

Wed was Bench day
435x1,1,1 Meh
Incline
Weighted dips
Cables
I think that's all that I did...lol

Tonight was assistance night.
Rows
Mil Press
Chain Snatches ( describe these later )
Band pull aparts
pull ups
grip work
bicep stuff

Chain snatches, These are like an upright row/rear delt/ lateral exercise. Well make a long story short, we have some anchor chain, must be 1 inch diameter links at least. 1 length I would say weighs 50-60 pounds. So what we do is grab the chain a little wider than shoulder width, and pull it up and when you get to your collar bone you try to rip the chain up and apart. SO, yeah it really has no name, and it's some crazy exercise. Only thing I know is it hammers my middle delts, traps, and rear delts. I like it, plus its a chain which makes it hardcore.

PeteSB75 12-06-2009 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFrank (Post 668386)
Nice! Get that row going. Don't be afraid to go a little heavy, use a little body english if need be.

Up to about 185 last time. Getting a little shoulder work on it to get it started moving. Definitely a tough exercise.


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Chain snatches, These are like an upright row/rear delt/ lateral exercise. Well make a long story short, we have some anchor chain, must be 1 inch diameter links at least. 1 length I would say weighs 50-60 pounds. So what we do is grab the chain a little wider than shoulder width, and pull it up and when you get to your collar bone you try to rip the chain up and apart. SO, yeah it really has no name, and it's some crazy exercise. Only thing I know is it hammers my middle delts, traps, and rear delts. I like it, plus its a chain which makes it hardcore.
Sound like fun :ze

Cutting back to 3 lifting days a week again, to give me more cardio days, so full body today. Squats, press and dead today. Squats felt very heavy at 315/335, so I didn't push weight. Press was good at 135x5,4. Dead, also good at 315x2,1. First time I've done that much without straps, thanks to a little chalk from Frank :tu

BigFrank 12-06-2009 03:24 PM

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I would recommend treating the row like the other compound movements, high weight low reps.
You can always do some t bar rows or chest supported rows for hypertrophy, but the free weight row should be done for power IMHO.

Glad to be of help there brother. Might be worth following a template similar to me. Squat and pull on one day then bench then mil press / assistance. At first it was rough because of the volume and time spent at the gym, but Im enjoying my time away from the gym now.

The Professor 12-07-2009 04:59 AM

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Heading in for the first time in a while. Between travel for work and travel for bereavement, it's been a while 5 weeks. I think I've managed to spend maybe 3 days in the gym in the last month (plus another 3 days at a hotel gym). PLUS, before that 5 weeks, I spent little time in due to being sick as a dog.

So what's happened to my body? Went from respectably strong for a fatty to just a fatty. Went from regular fatty to orca fat. Oh ... and I'm sure my endurance is shot to sh*t (not that it was stellar to begin with).

My road to recovery? This week is about loosening the body back up with cardio, stretching, and the Couture circuit workout. I'll probably do this circuit today, wednesday, and friday, with cardio (recumbent) before and after. tuesday, thursday, and next weekend will be just cardio and abs.

Next week, I'll start the Westside again. :ze

BigFrank 12-07-2009 02:30 PM

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Better man up Dokk

The Professor 12-07-2009 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFrank (Post 671593)
Better man up Dokk

:r

I'm working on it. This morning's cardio + conditioning kicked my ass big time. LoL! It was not pretty....

The Professor 12-08-2009 07:28 AM

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believe it or not, I'm sore from yesterday and I didn't do sh*t. :r I guess that's what taking so much time off does to you.

cardio, abs, and cardio today -- 20 minutes recumbent, 160+ weighted reps (100 cable rope crunches, 30 pull-down abs, and 30 db oblique raises), then another 20 minutes of recumbent.

I'll try that circuit again tomorrow....

PeteSB75 12-08-2009 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFrank (Post 670481)
I would recommend treating the row like the other compound movements, high weight low reps.
You can always do some t bar rows or chest supported rows for hypertrophy, but the free weight row should be done for power IMHO.

Glad to be of help there brother. Might be worth following a template similar to me. Squat and pull on one day then bench then mil press / assistance. At first it was rough because of the volume and time spent at the gym, but Im enjoying my time away from the gym now.

I'm shifting to 3 days/week again, just because I want the extra day for cardio to try and bring my BP down. So, I need to adjust my split. So, you squat and pull, then bench and other chest, then press/back stuff?

Deloading this week - bench, incline bench, curls. In and out in < 1 hr including stretching.

Mugen910 12-08-2009 08:09 AM

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dropped a 5lb plate right on my big toe while working out in my buddy's basement. :c You gotta see my toe..:pu

My routine consists of:
squats + shoulder press
bicep curls, overhead tricep extensions?
Row then chest press (w/elastic bands)

I'm assuming I need to throw in some ab workouts eventually ;)

BigFrank 12-08-2009 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 671623)
:r

I'm working on it. This morning's cardio + conditioning kicked my ass big time. LoL! It was not pretty....

Cardio is overrated lol!
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Originally Posted by PeteSB75 (Post 672450)
I'm shifting to 3 days/week again, just because I want the extra day for cardio to try and bring my BP down. So, I need to adjust my split. So, you squat and pull, then bench and other chest, then press/back stuff?

Deloading this week - bench, incline bench, curls. In and out in < 1 hr including stretching.

Yes right now my routine looks like this
Mon-Squat, Deadlift, Abs, lower body assistance
Wed- Bench, Tricep / assistance
Fri-Row, Mil Press, Upper back and Biceps ( been doing grip work on this day also recently )

Some guys Do not like Deadlifting and Squating in the same day. If you did not want to do that I would just Squat bench then pull and toss mil in after your deadlifts or something.

The Professor 12-08-2009 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFrank (Post 673181)
Cardio is overrated lol!

I know! :banger

DavenportESQ 12-08-2009 11:40 PM

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Finally got back in the gym today. Did Mostly machine chest stuff, felt really good. Did a little CG bench and felt good. but I didn't even try to attempt real bench pressing, I could tell I still have some issues....Tomorrow shoulders/arms or maybe full body day

PeteSB75 12-09-2009 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFrank (Post 673181)
Cardio is overrated lol!

Yes right now my routine looks like this
Mon-Squat, Deadlift, Abs, lower body assistance
Wed- Bench, Tricep / assistance
Fri-Row, Mil Press, Upper back and Biceps ( been doing grip work on this day also recently )

Some guys Do not like Deadlifting and Squating in the same day. If you did not want to do that I would just Squat bench then pull and toss mil in after your deadlifts or something.

I'm fine with squatting and deadlifting on the same do, do it now. Looks like a good split. I'm planning to take the week of christmas off, so I'll switch up after that. Thanks!

Just spin this morning for me.

PeteSB75 12-10-2009 07:02 AM

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Deloading back day. HS low row, lat pulldowns, t-bar rows. Finished up with dips.

The Professor 12-10-2009 07:26 AM

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fell down the stairs last night; but I still went in to do some cardio and that circuit (the one I did monday). it was fine. my conditioning is already improving. I'll keep this up the rest of the week/weekend and start actually lifting again next week. I'll probably do a standard 4-day split this first week, just to see where I'm at with each lift. then I'll get going on something like a westisde program (maybe).

oh ... and I think I have a lifting partner for chest days now. more on that later....

DavenportESQ 12-10-2009 08:40 AM

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Got a nice little shoulder workout yesterday

Did 4-5 sets of 15-20 reps

DB Shoulder Press
Bradford Press
Front Delt Raises
Side Delt Raises
Upright Row
Shrugs
Sitting Maching Shoulder PRess

icehog3 12-10-2009 08:46 AM

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Fell down the stairs? What's going on down there, Dokk?

Hoping to be well enough to get back into the gym next week, miss it lots.

The Professor 12-10-2009 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 675294)
Fell down the stairs? What's going on down there, Dokk?

Hoping to be well enough to get back into the gym next week, miss it lots.

I just slipped ... it was stupid. I usually fall going *up* the stairs. I probably should have grabbed a better pain killer for today. Sitting in this chair in my classroom is starting to hurt. But like I've said before, I'm a p*ssy. :p

icehog3 12-10-2009 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 675309)
I just slipped ... it was stupid. I usually fall going *up* the stairs. I probably should have grabbed a better pain killer for today. Sitting in this chair in my classroom is starting to hurt. But like I've said before, I'm a p*ssy. :p

I've got Vicodin. ;) :D

The Professor 12-10-2009 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 675333)
I've got Vicodin. ;) :D

DrMS left a percocet out for me; but I forgot to grab it. :td

icehog3 12-10-2009 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 675368)
DrMS left a percocet out for me; but I forgot to grab it. :td

Newman!

The Professor 12-10-2009 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 675372)
Newman!

:r:r:r

PeteSB75 12-10-2009 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 675294)
Fell down the stairs? What's going on down there, Dokk?

Hoping to be well enough to get back into the gym next week, miss it lots.

Hopefully all those MAWs heading your way will help dull the pain...

BigFrank 12-10-2009 03:30 PM

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Press was last night
465x1 I dont remember if this was a PR or not, but it was heavy and it felt slow as hell
Incline
Weighted Dips
High rep Cables

Nothing special other than the heavy bench night. Going to deload/volume work for a few weeks then roll back into it hardcore again. May just do some light band pressing.

Dokk you should try Westside for skinny bastards, its a decent program. It pretty much is westside for drug free guys. Original westside is designed for top of the line athletes and guys who do a ton of test.

http://www.defrancostraining.com/articles.html

icehog3 12-10-2009 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteSB75 (Post 675435)
Hopefully all those MAWs heading your way will help dull the pain...

I know the cigars you sent me sure helped, Pete. :)

PeteSB75 12-11-2009 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 676038)
I know the cigars you sent me sure helped, Pete. :)

Don't spend that money all in one place though :r

BigFrank 12-12-2009 09:17 AM

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Assistance stuff last night. No Military Pressing, shoulders were rather sore from heavy benching.

icehog3 12-12-2009 09:19 AM

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Thinking tomorrow may be my return day to the gym after 12 days recovering from my leg injury/infection. Wish me luck. :)

The Professor 12-12-2009 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 677824)
Thinking tomorrow may be my return day to the gym after 12 days recovering from my leg injury/infection. Wish me luck. :)

wishing luck, Admiral. :gl

just got back. cardio, random lifts (good AMs, chest press, shrugs), cardio.

time to eat. :dr

PeteSB75 12-14-2009 06:40 AM

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So I was planning to take the week between Christmas and New Year's off from the gym, since I'll be traveling and all. I guess different plans were made. I was chopping carrots last night for a salad, Sarah's parents were coming for dinner. I was apparently not paying enough attention and took off a sizable chunk of my left thumb. Luckily Sarah's mom is a nurse, so after we decided that the hospital wouldn't be able to do much for me other than bandage, we made a quick trip to CVS for supplies, patched me up, and had dinner, only slightly delayed...

In any case, I won't be lifting for at least a week, maybe more, depending on how long this takes to heal up. I'm going to try going to spin on Wednesday, but since my office Christmas party is Tuesday night, I'm guessing that won't happen, so I'm actually off for the week.

The Professor 12-14-2009 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by PeteSB75 (Post 679666)
So I was planning to take the week between Christmas and New Year's off from the gym, since I'll be traveling and all. I guess different plans were made. I was chopping carrots last night for a salad, Sarah's parents were coming for dinner. I was apparently not paying enough attention and took off a sizable chunk of my left thumb. Luckily Sarah's mom is a nurse, so after we decided that the hospital wouldn't be able to do much for me other than bandage, we made a quick trip to CVS for supplies, patched me up, and had dinner, only slightly delayed...

In any case, I won't be lifting for at least a week, maybe more, depending on how long this takes to heal up. I'm going to try going to spin on Wednesday, but since my office Christmas party is Tuesday night, I'm guessing that won't happen, so I'm actually off for the week.

Damn ... that sucks, Pete. I hope you heal fast. Is it too soon to joke about you ironically being "all thumbs"? ;) Seriously, though, heal soon brother.

First day not completely goofing off. Did squats, working my way up, for a half hour or so. Didn't get up that heavy -- 275 is where I stopped, I think. I didn't want to push it ... especially since my lower back is still hurting from falling down the stairs. :r

Did some rack walk-outs to see what the weight felt like on my back. They were fine. I think I stopped those at 455 or so. Piece of cake. :tu

Did some deadlifts and a bunch of weighted abs stuff after that. Stretched, took my PWD #1, and left. :su

Chest & tris tomorrow.... :ze

Chris. 12-14-2009 08:40 AM

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Ouch Pete! post a pic! :)

Here's the hand injury I got middle of this year that screwed me over for a while...
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3.../badcut002.jpg

oh, and ive been lazy as **** the last two weeks. havent been to the gym once. :(

PeteSB75 12-14-2009 08:56 AM

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I didn't take any pics last night. I just wanted to get it covered up to stop the bleeding.

BigFrank 12-14-2009 07:18 PM

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Electrical tape that ***** up and lift anyways I say.

Squat Pull Today
SQ-505x2,2,2,2,2,2
Pull- 405 ( double mini's on each side ) x 1,1,1
GHR
Reverse Hyper
Abs

PeteSB75 12-15-2009 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFrank (Post 680661)
Electrical tape that ***** up and lift anyways I say.

Squat Pull Today
SQ-505x2,2,2,2,2,2
Pull- 405 ( double mini's on each side ) x 1,1,1
GHR
Reverse Hyper
Abs

Heh, normally I would agree, but I took a pretty sizable chunk out. Probably removed about 1/4 inch slice, so it's a bit more than just skin :( Took me almost an hour to get the bandage off last night as it had stuck to the wound, running water over it and soaking it to remove clotted blood. Finally had to rip it off and take some new skin/clotted blood with it.

icehog3 12-15-2009 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PeteSB75 (Post 681215)
Heh, normally I would agree, but I took a pretty sizable chunk out. Probably removed about 1/4 inch slice, so it's a bit more than just skin :( Took me almost an hour to get the bandage off last night as it had stuck to the wound, running water over it and soaking it to remove clotted blood. Finally had to rip it off and take some new skin/clotted blood with it.

Pete, I just got over 5 days in the hospital with cellulitus from something not much different. Keep a close eye on it and if it starts to look more red or more swollen, see a doc right away.

PeteSB75 12-15-2009 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 681394)
Pete, I just got over 5 days in the hospital with cellulitus from something not much different. Keep a close eye on it and if it starts to look more red or more swollen, see a doc right away.

I hear that. Would really suck to have it get infected. It looked ok last night and this morning when I changed the bandage. Put some neosporin on it to keep it from sticking, as well as keeping it disinfected. It was bleeding more than enough to clean it when it happened, and the knife was clean, with just some carrot on it. I'm already on anti-inflammatories for my knee, so there's not much swelling. And at least it doesn't hurt much...

icehog3 12-15-2009 10:04 AM

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Hope it heals quick and easy, Pete. :)

Chris. 12-15-2009 10:10 AM

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Make sure to burn it out with peroxide a couple times each day. I think the best thing to do when you do have to bandage it up is to use some non stick gauze. Neosporin will dry up fairly quickly and you'll be right back to tearing the bandage off. I know how painful that is! :(

BigFrank 12-19-2009 07:12 AM

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benched on wed, nothing special

last night was assistance crap at the commercial crap hole gym.

anyone else been lifting?

icehog3 12-19-2009 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFrank (Post 686320)
benched on wed, nothing special

last night was assistance crap at the commercial crap hole gym.

anyone else been lifting?

Going back in about an hour for the first time 2 1/2 weeks.

BigFrank 12-19-2009 12:14 PM

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Glad to hear ya back in the swing of things Tom. Last night I dubbed the Tom workout. I think I did about 6 variations of rows and back movements hahaha. Looked a lot like your back workouts.

icehog3 12-19-2009 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFrank (Post 686619)
Glad to hear ya back in the swing of things Tom. Last night I dubbed the Tom workout. I think I did about 6 variations of rows and back movements hahaha. Looked a lot like your back workouts.

That sounds like oen of mine, Frank!! :D

I was happy with my first workout back. Only lost about 6-7 pounds during my hosptal and down time, and my strength was not down much at all. I hope to be back where I was within a week or two.

BigFrank 12-19-2009 09:18 PM

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Eat like a horse the next two weeks. I mean over eat. You'd be surprised what happens when your body is getting back in to the swing of things with a calorie overload.

icehog3 12-19-2009 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFrank (Post 687363)
Eat like a horse the next two weeks. I mean over eat. You'd be surprised what happens when your body is getting back in to the swing of things with a calorie overload.

That works for me, Frank! :D

icehog3 12-20-2009 12:44 PM

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First back workout since the layoff, kept it to 15 sets with T-Bar rows, barbell rows and pull-ups. Endurance has suffered, could only get 10 pull-ups per set after rowing.

Took Frank's advice afterward and had a steak, egg whites with chorizo, hash browns, and 8 grain toast with peanut butter.

Have hockey practice in a couple hours...good thing is that the best Texas BBQ in IL is along the route home, so brisket, here I come! :dr

The Professor 12-20-2009 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 688068)
Have hockey practice in a couple hours...good thing is that the best Texas BBQ in IL is along the route home, so brisket, here I come! :dr

If Texas BBQ is what you crave, Admiral, I have just the thing. :banger


Glad to see you're back in the swing of things. I'm still working on getting there after basically 2 months off. I'm gonna do another week or two of the "standard" 4-day split before hitting it westside style again. :ze

BigFrank 12-20-2009 02:06 PM

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Load up Tom. Your body will thank you later.

Chris. 12-20-2009 05:08 PM

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Did chest, arms, and a little back and legs today. Felt good to get back in!

icehog3 12-20-2009 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 688175)
If Texas BBQ is what you crave, Admiral, I have just the thing. :banger


Glad to see you're back in the swing of things. I'm still working on getting there after basically 2 months off. I'm gonna do another week or two of the "standard" 4-day split before hitting it westside style again. :ze

Thanks Dokk....feel good just getting in. I look forward to Texas BBQ...IN TEXAS! :D

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Originally Posted by BigFrank (Post 688189)
Load up Tom. Your body will thank you later.

A pound of beef brisket, baked potato, Texas chili, slaw and beans. And I am still hungry, Frank! :r


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