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Mugen910 09-25-2009 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by PeteSB75 (Post 567408)
You coming down for the Big Apple herf, Bao?

Wrong thread Petey...:D


Maybe..not sure.

PeteSB75 09-25-2009 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mugen910 (Post 567411)
Wrong thread Petey...:D


Maybe..not sure.

What Not Sure may look like:

http://images.theage.com.au/ftage/ff...b__300x300.jpg

Gotta do better than that...

Mugen910 09-25-2009 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PeteSB75 (Post 567495)
What Not Sure may look like:

http://images.theage.com.au/ftage/ff...b__300x300.jpg

Gotta do better than that...

:r:r:r

DavenportESQ 09-26-2009 09:15 AM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hEEj...eature=popular
:r:r:r:r:r:

The Professor 09-26-2009 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DavenportESQ (Post 568579)

OMG! LoL!!!!

icehog3 09-26-2009 09:36 AM

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No alcohol or supplements? If I abide by this, can I be a dork like Scooby some day too?

The Professor 09-26-2009 09:37 AM

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I'll contribute a more serious video to all of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE2yEnzD0jc

Pretty amazing to be hitting those numbers raw ... especially as a bodybuilder.

PS, this guy reminds me a little bit of The Admiral. :salute:

icehog3 09-26-2009 09:45 AM

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Dude is jacked!

The Professor 09-26-2009 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 568616)
Dude is jacked!

Indeed he is ... in every sense of the term.

There's an interview -- post lifting with Muscular Development -- where he's joking around a bunch. He also talks about how he tweaked his ham on one of the squat attempts. Had he not, who knows what his bench and deadlift would have looked like. Another 50 pounds on his total? 80?

Sick. :ze

dogface_313 09-26-2009 10:46 AM

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That video is pretty insane! That guy is huge, and incredibly strong. He is certainly powerful, but I would love to see what his agility, and speed look like though

The Professor 09-26-2009 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dogface_313 (Post 568674)
That video is pretty insane! That guy is huge, and incredibly strong. He is certainly powerful, but I would love to see what his agility, and speed look like though

Why? Different people, different goals. Regardless, I think you'd be surprised at the speed and agility of some of the world class bodybuilders and powerlifters.

DavenportESQ 09-26-2009 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 568681)
Why? Different people, different goals. Regardless, I think you'd be surprised at the speed and agility of some of the world class bodybuilders and powerlifters.

Idk about bodybuilders. For shows those guys are so stripped down if they walk to fast they might faint...

dogface_313 09-26-2009 11:49 AM

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Granted different people have different goals, I myself am more geared towards overall functional fitness(dead lift and squat certainly are very functional moves, not so much on bench). Because of that I am less impressed by one rep maxes, and more impressed with workouts that are high intensity(HR up around 170-180 bpm) for extended periods of time.

such as these:
http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/C...nHeavyFran.wmv
http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/C...WorkoutPre.wmv

sorry about the language on this last one, suggest you hit the mute button. However, the muscle-up is one of the most functional fitness movement out there, most people can't do one. This is impressive.
http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/C...erwood30MU.wmv

The Professor 09-26-2009 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DavenportESQ (Post 568684)
Idk about bodybuilders. For shows those guys are so stripped down if they walk to fast they might faint...

Fair enough. I was just thinking about the guy in the video, who is a BB by profession. Certainly at meet time, they're effed. :td

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Originally Posted by dogface_313 (Post 568728)
Because of that I am less impressed by one rep maxes, and more impressed with workouts that are high intensity(HR up around 170-180 bpm) for extended periods of time.

Like I said, different strokes for different folks. I'd actually rather be fat and massively strong than "fit." Of course, right now I'm just massively fat. :su :r

dogface_313 09-26-2009 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 568787)
Fair enough. I was just thinking about the guy in the video, who is a BB by profession. Certainly at meet time, they're effed. :td



Like I said, different strokes for different folks. I'd actually rather be fat and massively strong than "fit." Of course, right now I'm just massively fat. :su :r

Haha, nothing funnier that self deformation. Didn't mean to come in here and start seeming like I am a fitness god.

There are many definitions of "fit" out there, in my mind I would say there has to be a very good balance of strength, speed, agility, balance and flexibility.

Watching those videos got me fired up though, went and did the workout "Fran", forgot how much that one sucks.

Mugen910 09-26-2009 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DavenportESQ (Post 568684)
Idk about bodybuilders. For shows those guys are so stripped down if they walk to fast they might faint...

:r:r

icehog3 09-26-2009 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dogface_313 (Post 568674)
That video is pretty insane! That guy is huge, and incredibly strong. He is certainly powerful, but I would love to see what his agility, and speed look like though

No need for speed....that Dude doesn't need to run from anyone. ;) :r

dogface_313 09-26-2009 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 568828)
No need for speed....that Dude doesn't need to run from anyone. ;) :r

Not to sure about that Tom. I know some fellas that revel in taking down guys that are far bigger than them.

BigFrank 09-26-2009 07:11 PM

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cross fit is a cult.

Mugen910 09-26-2009 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 568828)
No need for speed....that Dude doesn't need to run from anyone. ;) :r

Why you telling people? - told u that in private ;)
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icehog3 09-27-2009 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dogface_313 (Post 568887)
Not to sure about that Tom. I know some fellas that revel in taking down guys that are far bigger than them.

Some big guys have skilz too, Ryan. ;)

The Professor 09-27-2009 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 569743)
Some big guys have skilz too, Ryan. ;)

"Don't taze me, bro!" :r ;)

icehog3 09-27-2009 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 569769)
"Don't taze me, bro!" :r ;)

1:13 mark.... ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imtb-9yGJBg

dogface_313 09-27-2009 11:59 AM

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No working out for this guy today. To many 12 oz curls last night

icehog3 09-27-2009 12:17 PM

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Same here, vodka bit me a bit...back to the gym manana.

dogface_313 09-27-2009 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFrank (Post 569164)
cross fit is a cult.

Maybe, but it delivers. since starting CROSSFIT my physical training sessions seem easy, i have more energy during the day, have become more flexible, and my functional strength and speed have increased a ton.

BigFrank 09-27-2009 04:57 PM

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Performing compound movements both basic and difficult for reps in a state of pre exhaustion while trying to be fast about it? I'll pass.

Quote from Charles Poliquin: "If you try to do everything in your workout, you get nothing. CrossFit is different, and maybe even fun for some people, but it's not very effective. No athlete has ever gotten good training like that."

If it works for you, more power to ya. But only advantage I see in crossfit is you become good at doing crossfit. You want functional strength? Try strongman training.

BigFrank 09-27-2009 04:58 PM

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Gym tonight was rough.
Power Cleans, Heavy Rows, Chins, and Band Pull aparts.

Back 100% tomorrow.
Ordering a prowler and some heavy handles for farmers walks this week. Might try to get someone ( welder ) at work to make me a pair before I order a pair.

DavenportESQ 09-27-2009 05:49 PM

Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3
 
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Originally Posted by BigFrank (Post 570217)
Performing compound movements both basic and difficult for reps in a state of pre exhaustion while trying to be fast about it? I'll pass.

Quote from Charles Poliquin: "If you try to do everything in your workout, you get nothing. CrossFit is different, and maybe even fun for some people, but it's not very effective. No athlete has ever gotten good training like that."

If it works for you, more power to ya. But only advantage I see in crossfit is you become good at doing crossfit. You want functional strength? Try strongman training.

Agree 100% While I try to add circuits in. I do it to break monotony at the gym, also on days when I do not have a lot of time. Or I use it as a more cardiovascular work out.

This whole term of "functional strength" that everyone throws around is kind of ridiculous. Who judges what is functional and not? If your a strongman isn't squatting 1000lbs functional? Is it functional for you to be able to do 1000 burpees in a day?

BTW Poliquin is the man, the myth and the legend. I have been lucky enough to meet him and chat a little bit and he is a true great one. An innovator and someone who really to me is about "functional strength"

side note isn't this a pumping iron thread?Not a silly pilates, or fitness thread?OR YOGA FOR THAT MATTER:r:r:r;s

The Professor 09-27-2009 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DavenportESQ (Post 570312)
side note isn't this a pumping iron thread?Not a silly pilates, or fitness thread?OR YOGA FOR THAT MATTER:r

Hey! I haven't mentioned the "Y" word for a long time. :r No time or energy for that sh*t once I started really kicking it up with the iron. Speaking of, I can't effing wait to get back into the swing of things this week. Westside-style ME/DE split? Yes please. :tu

icehog3 09-27-2009 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DavenportESQ (Post 570312)
.

This whole term of "functional strength" that everyone throws around is kind of ridiculous. Who judges what is functional and not? If your a strongman isn't squatting 1000lbs functional? Is it functional for you to be able to do 1000 burpees in a day?

Word.

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Originally Posted by DavenportESQ
side note isn't this a pumping iron thread?Not a silly pilates, or fitness thread?OR YOGA FOR THAT MATTER:r:r:r;s

Maybe someone should start a fitness thread. I don't mind people talking about their other fitness routines and goals here, but when people start bashing powerlifting, Olympic lifting, bodybuilding...well, this just ain't the thread to do that in.

The Professor 09-27-2009 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 570437)
Word.



Maybe someone should start a fitness thread. I don't mind people talking about their other fitness routines and goals here, but when people start bashing powerlifting, Olympic lifting, bodybuilding...well, this just ain't the thread to do that in.

Double/triple WORD. :banger

I wanna be fat in peace. ;)

icehog3 09-27-2009 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Professor (Post 570461)
Double/triple WORD. :banger

I wanna be fat in peace. ;)

;)

I can lift cars, I can play hockey against the 21 year olds...I don't want to feel bad because I can't keep up on the latest aerobic circuit training. :r

dogface_313 09-27-2009 07:42 PM

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If it came off that I was bashing power lifting or oly lifting then I apologize. My first post in this thread was saying how amazed I was by that guy's lifts. Most of my workouts do in fact incorporate oly lifts, whether they be deadlifts, cleans, snatches what have you. If I came off as disrespectful once again I apologize, I just enjoy working out and staying in shape and felt like discussing it. The only thing that has been bashed by anyone is Crossfit. But like it was said before different people have different goals.

icehog3 09-27-2009 08:21 PM

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No apology necessary, Ryan, we are just used to talking about the more traditional weight training in the thread. Like cigars, it's different strokes for different folks. Hopefully we can all discuss ideas and routines without judging others'. I will do my best to live up to that best I can.

DavenportESQ 09-27-2009 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 570554)
No apology necessary, Ryan, we are just used to talking about the more traditional weight training in the thread. Like cigars, it's different strokes for different folks. Hopefully we can all discuss ideas and routines without judging others'. I will do my best to live up to that best I can.

Mostly I don't want to hear about Dokk doing yoga :r

icehog3 09-27-2009 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DavenportESQ (Post 570567)
Mostly I don't want to hear about Dokk doing yoga :r

I can live with it if he posts up some pictures. :r

DavenportESQ 09-27-2009 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 570572)
I can live with it if he posts up some pictures. :r

Maybe the scenery whose doing it with him

icehog3 09-27-2009 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DavenportESQ (Post 570580)
Maybe the scenery whose doing it with him

I want to see his leotard. ;)

The Professor 09-27-2009 10:20 PM

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I hate u all. :r:r:r
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PeteSB75 09-28-2009 07:33 AM

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I'll see if I can get a pic of me spinning one of these days for you Tom. You can put it on your fridge next to the one of Dokk in his leotard. :ze

Good lifts this morning, heavy dead and some higher volume work. Dead 275x4, 315x2 PR reps, OH DB Press 55x12,10,10 and finished up with Lat pulldowns for 180x10,8,8.

Fiance is off today, so she made me a nice bacon & cheese omelette before I headed off to work. always great having a cooked breakfast in the morning after the gym.

icehog3 09-28-2009 08:31 AM

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Sweet, Pete! :r

Almost Gym Time For Bonzo.... :ze

gorob23 09-28-2009 10:50 AM

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I was wondering...can I banter here :tpd:

Rob ;s

Mugen910 09-28-2009 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DavenportESQ (Post 570567)
Mostly I don't want to hear about Dokk doing yoga :r

Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 570572)
I can live with it if he posts up some pictures. :r

Dead bug or Downward Dog? :r

Mugen910 09-28-2009 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DavenportESQ (Post 570312)
side note isn't this a pumping iron thread?Not a silly pilates, or fitness thread?OR YOGA FOR THAT MATTER

Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 570437)
Word.

Maybe someone should start a fitness thread. I don't mind people talking about their other fitness routines and goals here, but when people start bashing powerlifting, Olympic lifting, bodybuilding...well, this just ain't the thread to do that in.

:hm...now I feel like a fool for having posted up my daily runs during my marathon training...:(

icehog3 09-28-2009 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mugen910 (Post 571417)
:hm...now I feel like a fool for having posted up my daily runs during my marathon training...:(

See our subsequent posts....not an issue, Brother Bao! :tu

BigFrank 09-28-2009 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dogface_313 (Post 570499)
If it came off that I was bashing power lifting or oly lifting then I apologize. My first post in this thread was saying how amazed I was by that guy's lifts. Most of my workouts do in fact incorporate oly lifts, whether they be deadlifts, cleans, snatches what have you. If I came off as disrespectful once again I apologize, I just enjoy working out and staying in shape and felt like discussing it. The only thing that has been bashed by anyone is Crossfit. But like it was said before different people have different goals.

I dont think anyone was put off or offended by anything ya said. I just like most others try to help fellow brothers here go in the right direction. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they usually stink. Unless it is Jessica Alba then its all roses and such. Anyways. Like I said bro, if crossfit is working for you then I am happy. I dont care if we even talk about pillates or whatever here. Doesnt matter to me. I just offer my experience and thoughts to others hoping it will help in the end. I dont want to see anyone waste time or hurt themselves.

But a Ban on Dokk and Yoga is a must.

No gym tonight my upper back is shot. Power cleans are a must for anyone who wants a huge upper back. My traps are extremely sure.

icehog3 09-28-2009 04:15 PM

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Tore up back today, lots of heavy rows and lots of pull-ups. Gonna need to throw in some power cleans next back day, Frank. :tu

BigFrank 09-28-2009 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 571885)
Tore up back today, lots of heavy rows and lots of pull-ups. Gonna need to throw in some power cleans next back day, Frank. :tu

If you decide to do them, I would do them first. They are great for a warmup exercise. Plus doing them without much in the tank isnt a good idea figuring they are a full body lift.

gorob23 09-28-2009 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 570437)
Word.



M when people start bashing powerlifting, Olympic lifting, bodybuilding...well, this just ain't the thread to do that in.

;s ....


Rob


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